Moto Guzzi V85TT

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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G.P wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:57 pm My only problem with it is whether its got enough real world power.
roll-on acceleration whilst 2 up or loaded should be easy. I'm not sure that pushing 235kgs (when full of fuel) with 80bhp would be that relaxed at higher speeds.
Might have to try one.
Were Suzuki GSX1100 Katanas quick enough, a standard one is about 80bhp and with a tank of fuel they weigh more than that.
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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Plenty of cars only have 85bhp...

Alright you're not gonna be breaking any lap records on an 85bhp bike, but that's not the idea. Dangerous or underpowered though? Hardly.
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:37 pm Plenty of cars only have 85bhp...

Alright you're not gonna be breaking any lap records on an 85bhp bike, but that's not the idea. Dangerous or underpowered though? Hardly.
Especially given that it's probably a fairly torquey motor (for it's capacity), which is great for pulling away from roundabouts/junctions, or maintaining a reasonable pace on any given stretch of road, and is far more useful in 'real-world' riding than oodles of top end power but sod-all mid-range.
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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Julian_Boolean wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:35 pm
G.P wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:57 pm My only problem with it is whether its got enough real world power.
roll-on acceleration whilst 2 up or loaded should be easy. I'm not sure that pushing 235kgs (when full of fuel) with 80bhp would be that relaxed at higher speeds.
Might have to try one.
Were Suzuki GSX1100 Katanas quick enough, a standard one is about 80bhp and with a tank of fuel they weigh more than that.
I had an '81 Suzuki GSX750 which I think was something daft like 235kgs dry with 70 ish bhp. it went fine, but if you wanted to get it accelerating hard from anything over 70mph, you really had to keep the revs right up.
We all know the V85TT will probably do over 120mph, but its the accessibility that makes a big difference on long rides (and I'm currently spoiled by a 135bhp twin ;) ).
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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My Varadero was listed at 93bhp, was well over 240kg and went pretty well with a passenger and all the boxes loaded.
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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G.P wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:57 pm My only problem with it is whether its got enough real world power.
roll-on acceleration whilst 2 up or loaded should be easy. I'm not sure that pushing 235kgs (when full of fuel) with 80bhp would be that relaxed at higher speeds.
Might have to try one.
Watched these? Second one Si reckons its got high 60s at the back wheel and not much left for overtakes at say 80 unless you knock it down and cain it. He still rates it though and seems to go alright



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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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When I was looking to replace the NC recently it was the bike that I really wanted, but:
- It's £11k new, and not much on the second hand market except ex demonstrators yet
- I was a bit dubious about tubed tyres.

I was also attracted to the Himalayan (great minds, Taipan?) but 25 bhp? Not sure. The funky option of a Himalayan plus an old Guzzi Norge sprang to mind - horses for more courses, 7-8k for two bikes, Guzzi experience for less investment, etc.

Eventually I opted for a Tracer 700. Probably similar performance to the V85TT. Cheaper to buy and run. Less prestigious, yes. Good enough for me, for now, though.

Will it be a Guzzi eventually? I don't know. Maybe one day...
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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The likelihood of me doing a fully loaded up overtake at 80 plus is pretty low.

The likelihood of doing it, but not being able to change down a gear or two, is zero :D
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Anything over 60bhp scares me. My F8R scares the shit out of me when I cane it through the gears! :oops: :lol:
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Onyerbike Aylesbury have them on sale for £10k if anyone is interested 👍
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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I like them as well, dual headlamps, primary colours and beautiful switchgear (well on the youtube videos anyway).

However, a part of me hankers after japanese reliability and ease of everything (especially servicing) so in the real world it would be a v strom 650 or tracer 7/9.

I am going to try one, once lockdown is over, only because I am still dreaming of that ride on the 390 adv, where I rode for 3 hours and had no backache. The sheer joy of being able to ride and not being in pain (well at least without painkillers).

I think Colchester Kawasaki had them at £8999
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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The small block Guzzi motor is probably 10 times easier to service than anything Japanese.

It's air cooled, twin valve pushrod motor with lock nut adjustable tappets... the heads even stick out the side so you can just pull the rockers covers off without removing anything else!
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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KungFooBob wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:56 pm The small block Guzzi motor is probably 10 times easier to service than anything Japanese.

It's air cooled, twin valve pushrod motor with lock nut adjustable tappets... the heads even stick out the side so you can just pull the rockers covers off without removing anything else!
Abso-fucking -lutely :banana-wrench:

I was lucky enough to have to do 160 business miles on the Triumph Tiger yesterday, the first jaunt for ages. I

loved how comfortable it was, but it dawned on me while bimbling along that I've had it 5 years nearly now and I started thinking about V85s again. Then I thought. actually, I've got a 1200 Monster in the garage, maybe I should flick them both and have one Multistrada.

I still really like the idea of a V85 though :D
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I really like the look of the V85TT. It ticks a lot of boxes. The only thing I'm not keen on is the spoked wheels and the inevitable tubed tyres. If they offered a cast wheel aternative (with tubeless tyres) I could see one of those in my life. I notice in the video when Simon stopped and talked to his Italian minder that his minder's bike had some very nice looking cast wheels. I wonder...?
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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How about one in 1980s Volvo gold? I think my mum had a 340 in this colour.

I actually really like it though!

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:08 pm 1980s Volvo gold
You mean Jewish Racing Gold.
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And I thought my mate was the only one who used that phrase. :mrgreen:
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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It looks like this year's model comes with tubeless wheels. Look at the position of the spokes - plus it's confirmed in the description: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-detai ... =on&page=2

Hence why the old model is now discounted.
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:16 pm Anyone had one of these or know anything about them ?

A good pal of mine is thinking about buying one :)

But test rides aren't available here, so he's looking for some first hand knowledge.

TIA :)
He sneaked off to G.C. last week for a test ride.
It arrives Friday. That'll be 8 bikes here now :obscene-birdiedoublered:
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85TT

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After 3 fun days touring Las Palmas, we finally got to see it when he came for the MotoGP :)

Looks much nicer in the flesh than in pics
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