thermal top/fleece/layer

[Scuffmark]

Used one of these for the last 3 winters and found it very effective at keeping my core warm. Fits nicely under a jacket and the sleeves are a good length so they don't ride up above my gloves.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133964834366 ... R_bDgeCUYQ

[formula400]

Keis.

A few quid off atm too.

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... rod/469707

They're surprisingly bulky (I have one).

Indeed, bulky to the point of being a proper jacket even without the heating elements. My Blaze Wear jacket is much less bulky, feels like it has a higher heat temp but is definitely not as well made.

My Klan heated gilet is in the loft somewhere and no doubt still functioning.

@formula400 assuming you're still at the same place on Piccadilly, there is a Cotswold Outdoor down at the Piccadilly Circus end, north side of the street. They've have a decent selection of fleeces and under layers to view.

I am still there, ill have a walk down to see, failing that ill head to Croydon to decathlon, but also eyeing up a Oxford window chill top thing on sports bike shop (about to order some waterproof boots as I am sick of having wet feet) love the free returns they do

[Count Steer]

Don't laugh...but, if anyone wants thermal base layer stuff at budget prices, have a look at Damart. eg their 'Thermolactyl' long pants are from £22 (£27 if you want fancy colours, £25 if you want extra warm) and they have 30% off everything for the next 2 days. (I have some to wear under my boiler suit for when I'm working in the loft - keeps me warm without feeling bundled up so I can crawl around the nooks and crannies doing insulating etc).

For even more insulation they do fleece jogging pants for under £20.

[Hot_Air]

While Mountain Warehouse has frequent sales, it’s currently got 42% off the price of merino base-layers.

https://www.mountainwarehouse.com/mens/ ... -thermals/

[Scootabout]

Simply, your body heat transfers to the wax. As you cool down, the heat transfers back.

So, the limitation: on a continuously cold day, if you don't heat up again that will only happen once.

I discovered that the hard way when I once cycled in very wet and cold conditions, and wore an outlast thermal under a non-waterproof jacket. I expected the shirt to work like a normal wicking thermal, but it seemed to just get colder and colder. I was frozen by the end of the ride (which of course involved getting lost..)

That obviously shouldn't happen on a motorbike, but you have been warned in case you're tempted to use it in other situations.

[Horse]

Simply, your body heat transfers to the wax. As you cool down, the heat transfers back.

So, the limitation: on a continuously cold day, if you don't heat up again that will only happen once.

I cycled in very wet and cold conditions, and wore an outlast thermal under a non-waterproof jacket. I expected the shirt to work like a normal wicking thermal, but it seemed to just get colder and colder. I was frozen by the end of the ride

Basically, it was trying to heat the world rather than just you.

[Scootabout]

Basically, it was trying to heat the world rather than just you.

No wonder it failed!

[KungFooBob]

https://zerofit.co.uk/products/heatrub- ... -baselayer

are supposed to keep eleventy two more kelvins of temp in than any other base layer on the market, or I might have misread the review.

[Horse]

https://zerofit.co.uk/products/heatrub- ... -baselayer

are supposed to keep eleventy two more kelvins of temp in than any other base layer on the market

Technologically enhanced 'Heat Threads inside the garment are activated through even the slightest of movements, gently brushing against the skin to generate positive warmth instantly

I've ordered the underpants

[Hot_Air]

gently brushing against the skin to generate positive warmth instantly
I've ordered the underpants

That's an image I could do without

[scottyuk]

I have an EDZ Yeti fleece and it's warm as anything but bulky. I prefer their microfibre fleece. Probably 80% as warn but thin. I swear by my long sleeved Outlast base layer in combination with the above

[Alan PBTD]

Mate of mine flys microlights and swears by the Zero stuff - so if u do feel the cold then this is the kit to get. I used to buy the Nike Compresession range of base layers / thermals and although brill they lost the plot on the pricing. Have moved over to the miles cheaper Sondico from Sports Direct which is good stuff for the price - doesn't last as long as the Nike gear but there we are. . As I work outdoors a lot in all weathers base layers get a hammering but the ''long johns'' even as straight base layers are especially good in the recent cold weather.

Still wear the tops in the summer - the Sondico ''wicks'' really well. If u buy a top get the long sleeve versions with a high collar.

[Scootabout]

My go-to base layer is the Helly Hansen LIFA range. You can get cheaper ones, but I stick with them because they work and I like the fit and feel of them - not too tight, for starters. They aren't designed to be especially warm per se but to keep you warm by wicking sweat away. You can always add another layer. And they work in a wide range of temperatures and activities. I use them for jogging, and used to use them for canoeing and skiing.

[weeksy]

Ace of base: How ZeroFit make the 'world's warmest base layer'

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... ase-layer/

You have to have the utmost confidence in your garments to trademark them as the ‘world’s warmest base layer’ but that’s just what ZeroFit have done.

The ‘Heat Rub’ technology was developed by Japanese rider Koji Higashi as a way to continue his favourite outdoor activities when the winter weather arrived.

The base layers, which include long sleeved tops, leggings, snoods and socks, not only trap the body’s heat, but also actually produce heat as you move around.

Friction holds the key Firstly, an outer layer constructed from hollow polyester insulates the rider from the cold.

Beneath this is a 45% polypropylene thermoplastic construction that aids in regulating body temperature by removing sweat from the skin through the hollow polyester shell, ensuring it evaporates off the surface of the garment quickly. This is so the unpleasant experience of cold sweat can be avoided.

It’s beneath the outer layer where the hot science happens as long, micro-filaments called ‘Heat Threads’ actually generate warmth via friction as they gently brush against the skin. It is the textile equivalent of rubbing your hands together on a cold day.

[Skub]

Chilling out at the Dark Hedges too.

[Horse]

gently brushing against the skin to generate positive warmth instantly
I've ordered the underpants

That's an image I could do without

[Hot_Air]

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... ase-layer/

MCN has — not for the first time — recited the manufacturer’s marketing material. That said, I wore a Zerofit Ultimate top for a while, and it was the warmest base layer I’ve had at that price point. But when I felt flush, I traded it in for Halvarssons’ Warm Wool Polo (pricier but nicer than Zerofit’s Ultimate).

My Zerofit worked incredibly well when moving (e.g., it was warm while walking). But in road riding, I reckoned the Zerofit’s thickness provided insulation, but there wasn’t enough movement for the “heat threads” to work. It’s still warm for road riding, but Halvarssons’ Warm Wool Polo* is worth the extra because it’s cosier and comfier.

* Judging by my old Halvarssons base layers, I expect Halvarssons uses a higher quality merino in the Warm Wool Polo than in previous versions.

[Skub]

MCN has — not for the first time — recited the manufacturer’s marketing material. That said, I wore a Zerofit Ultimate top for a while, and it was the warmest base layer I’ve had at that price point. But when I felt flush, I traded it in for Halvarssons’ Warm Wool Polo (pricier but nicer than Zerofit’s Ultimate).

My Zerofit worked incredibly well when moving (e.g., it was warm while walking). But in road riding, I reckoned the Zerofit’s thickness provided insulation, but there wasn’t enough movement for the “heat threads” to work. It’s still warm for road riding, but Halvarssons’ Warm Wool Polo* is worth the extra because it’s cosier and comfier.

* Judging by my old Halvarssons base layers, I expect Halvarssons uses a higher quality merino in the Warm Wool Polo than in previous versions.

Pricey,but if it worked,that would go some distance to excuse the cost.

[gremlin]

For the record, Lidl base layer top and bottom, cruddy Addidas fleece and my old Master V Lockout kit when it was showing -4 this morning was pretty much on the mark for the 40-odd minute ride in. Only cold toes (didn't wear my thermal socks) and cold-ish fingers with heated grips and Held winter gloves.

[Horse]

Techno stuff from Craghoppers

Dynamic 12000 stretch jersey construction that reflects natural infrared rays back to the body. Half-zip styling with dropped-back hem and reflective detail.

Review:

One thing we didn’t expect to see on a fleece was an intriguing development based around health and well-being. The fleece has natural minerals baked into it which reflect the body’s infrared rays. This is widely known to promote faster healing and reduce muscle fatigue by encouraging cell regeneration and improving circulation of oxygen-rich blood. This sounds particularly useful for performance outdoor clothing and reminds us of the compression wear revolution. It’s difficult to tell how well it works, but the Dynamic Hoody certainly feels fantastic when you’re on the move hiking or cycling.

https://www.active-traveller.com/gear-r ... ded-fleece

Might not work with 'passive' motorcycling Vs 'active' cycling?