Introduction..... again

[TBR_Matt]

hey all, first of all, big thanks to weeksy for inviting me over to this forum

To follow on from the introduction section, this is an overview of what we do and our services.. you see one lot of boards dealers offering "forum discounts" I myself am guilty of this... but in reality most are members of lots of different forums and everyone gets the same discount.. I do this because I love bikes and racing.. I still have very lucrative engineering contracts, that I can bore my brain to death with if I want to squeeze every penny out of my working life, so I'm happy to sort people out and give good deals, whenever I can, its always a bit of give and take

So what we generally focus on at TBR is sportsbikes, hypersports whatever you want to call them, race bikes and road bikes and making them go faster. We're not into turbos or drag rcing or that kind of thing, we're heavily into road/track racing, so primarily normally aspirated bikes, be it IL4s vtwins, v4s etc, motocross bikes and off road also not a problem, but nothing particularly specialist in the terms of the bikes we deal with

We provide engine tuning, engine building, headwork (currently sub contracted out as there are way better porters out there than me and Ant) dyno testing etc.. we also do all normal bike garage servicing and repairs, fault finding.. supply and fit tyres.. currently do not do MOT's as simply don't have the space. I'm an electrical engineer of around 15 yrs now, design and on the tools, So electrical fault finding is a bit of a speciality we can help with. I'm not promising anything though, electrical fault finding is hard sometimes whoever you are!

Anthony is an ex mclaren race department engine builder.. so he gets dibs in that area, but we both build engines, for refresh or improvement

A big part of my own work here, is Suspension servicing, tuning and so on and so forth, We're an authorised ktech service centre as well as mupo and bitubo, and are dealers for Ohlins, Nitron, YSS and hyperpro.. we can service all these brands, but are not an "official ohlins centre" for example... so all your suspension wants and needs are covered

I became a car and bike mechanic after leaving school, then did a mechanical engineering apprenticeship, then did an electrical engineering apprenticeship, then did an hnd in engineering and control systems, which eventually ended up with me becoming senior controls engineer at GEA some 12 yrs later, weirdly this then lead back to motor vehicle, as controls engineering is the very basis of suspension design and tuning, and gave me an easy door into the world, which is what first lead me to open TBR as a professional business.
As of this season we are the official suspension support for Bemsee race club as well, which was a nice reward after unofficially supporting various people in the paddock over the past few yrs (and winning their championships to boot ).. I have a lot of experience with bike setup and handling issues, gained over the past 7 yrs racing and helping others

For ecu/fuelling tuning, we can work with all the piggy back modules and we use woolich or ecu tune for flashing, we have a dynapro dyno, and recently upgraded our dyno room

We supply performance parts.. we do also have suppliers for aesthetic parts, but its not really our thing. But parts that are lighter, help with ergonomics, parts to get more power, braking parts and pretty much all the suspension manufacturers I can think off right now, are available

We test virtually everything we sell at some point in some way or another, not always of course, but particularly things like brake pads, I've tried almost all I can think of.. we test brake calipers for flex, all the different master cylinder we've used on track or had some much faster riders test for us. I will always advise you as to what I think is best for you, I'm fully aware that not everyone needs or wants a £500 master cylinder, and I will generally steer people away from over doing things unless it will be worth it in the long run. A lot of the time whats fitted on the bike already just needs using differently or optimising

Hopefully that wasn't too much waffle, in short if you have technical issues we can help, and if you want parts or tuning, we can help with that too

Best way to get in contact really is through our Facebook page, but I'll check up on here for messages too

Fb page is

www.facebook.com/innocentengineering

[weeksy]

MAtt, i was going to use Paul @ Black 'n' white bikes.

But can you quote me (pm or public is fine) for Ktech SSK kit, springs, oil, (90kg rider) for the XSR 900 please. Supplied and fitted to loose forks.

[TBR_Matt]

Not a problem,

For "normal forks" that have damping in both legs
For loose forks, including all service items, so main seals, dust seals, guide and slide bushes
Springs
Ssk kit
FCV's

Is £520 all in including return postage if shipped to us or £510 if you collect the forks

For the xsr900 that is only damped in the lhs fork its £420/£410

Correction: £354 as there are no fcvs for these forks either

Do occasionally get people who have very recently had fork seals done, or maybe even a full service... Happy to deduct the seals and/or bushes from the cost, each item is roughly £18

But it does depend on the fork, forks where you have to slide hammer the bush/seals out.. sometimes a bush gets damaged, and these are also more at risk of a seal getting nicked when rebuilding.. if necessary, the I will charge (cost of the parts only) to replace them.. because its a massive pain in the arse for me.. the prices are based on the forks and kit coming apart cleanly and going back together exactly how they should. There's no wiggle room for having to dissassemble forks twice to replace seals

Touch wood, that's never happened though

[TBR_Matt]

Dont known if you're interested weeksy, but full ids cartridges for your bike are exceptionally well priced from ktech, can supply them to you for £550 for the cartridges

Plus springs and service items and fitting £794 all in.. which is less than just a the cartridge kit for most bikes!

[weeksy]

Out of interest Matt, what about just springs and oil (plus whatever else is needed of course)

[TBR_Matt]

What else, as in fork seals and bushes?

So I generally charge a flat rate of £80 to change fork seals and oil to loose forks and £100 if dust seals need replacing as well
Add £25 for bushes
And £80 for springs

On your bike, if you were considering some different oil and springs, and the forks are in good nick. you'd literally just need to drain one leg and fit the springs... so about £30 labour plus the springs.. having met the forks fitted to your bike before.. i wouldnt recommend it though, the piston kit will is a way better improvement, but lack of compression adjustment is a big let down

Shock servicing £135 and then add on parts such as piston kits and springs, ktech do a nice piston kit for 40mm shocks and its only £60, there are various other upgrade parts available as well.. but imho most shocks just need a service for road use to get them sorted.. massive variability with that statement though

[G.P]

Hi Matt,
I'm only 20 minute down the A4 in Calne. I've got a Ducati 1995 900ss trackbike project that I need to get some fabrication done on, do you or anyone you know locally do fab & welding?
Once its running I'll need to get it set up - tune wise and also suspension - sound like I should also talk to you then.
Cheers

[TBR_Matt]

I do know someone who dies really good fabrication work, but he's a one man band in a small unit, so sometimes might be a bit of a wait depending what else he's got on. All the other stuff is no problem for us