When carbs go bad
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When carbs go bad
Ok peeps perhaps this should be in tech but Im sure you'll have a view here too.
The mighty Mirage that Ive been blatting about on this summer displays a tendancy to bog a little on certain throttle openings not electricaL Im pretty sure. Hypothetically could I (waits for court gasp replace the carbs with throttle bodies and is this a good or /purist mode) total disaster (almost certainly) SECONDLY Is it really difficult? Should perhaps say the carbs have overflowed a couple of times despite new valves recently (bit sticky a tap cured that and its not done it since.
The mighty Mirage that Ive been blatting about on this summer displays a tendancy to bog a little on certain throttle openings not electricaL Im pretty sure. Hypothetically could I (waits for court gasp replace the carbs with throttle bodies and is this a good or /purist mode) total disaster (almost certainly) SECONDLY Is it really difficult? Should perhaps say the carbs have overflowed a couple of times despite new valves recently (bit sticky a tap cured that and its not done it since.
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Re: When carbs go bad
Carbs overflowing is caused by the float valves not sealing or the float heights are wrong, but be aware some carbs on some bikes don't like being leant over and always leak a little, Mikuni flatslides do this because the float chambers are linked and when the bike is leant over all the fuel ends up in the lowest float chamber.
The bogging on certain throttle openings can be tuned out and this is probably easier and cheaper than fitting fuel injection, if you don't want to fiddle with the carbs yourself, take it to someone who knows Laverdas, I assume it's got DellOrto slide carbs and in my experience these aren't great, though you do wonder how something as simple as a slide carb can be bad.
For fuel injection you will need the throttle bodies, a fuel pump, a way for the fuel to return to the tank plus a whole load of sensors and an ECU for it to work properly.
The bogging on certain throttle openings can be tuned out and this is probably easier and cheaper than fitting fuel injection, if you don't want to fiddle with the carbs yourself, take it to someone who knows Laverdas, I assume it's got DellOrto slide carbs and in my experience these aren't great, though you do wonder how something as simple as a slide carb can be bad.
For fuel injection you will need the throttle bodies, a fuel pump, a way for the fuel to return to the tank plus a whole load of sensors and an ECU for it to work properly.
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Re: When carbs go bad
They've probably got dirt in them, the inside of your tank might be corroding, or if it's been sealed the sealant is coming off.
I've tried sealing tanks and it doesn't last, you're better off getting the bottom of the tank cut off, it cleaned properly by shot blasting and then the bottom welding back on again - not cheap, but cheaper than a new tank.
If you're going to keep the bike fix it properly, if you're not keeping it do what all the other shysters selling classic bikes do, bodge it and enjoy the profit.
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Re: When carbs go bad
Were the seats replaced as well?
If you can drop the bottom of the float bowl (jet access) get some compressed air in there and see if that makes a difference!
But a carb strip is in order!
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Re: When carbs go bad
Inline paper element filters stop rust and dirt going from the tank to the carbs.
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Re: When carbs go bad
What throttle openings?roadbargee wrote:a tendancy to bog a little on certain throttle openings
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