Back protector

[Tigs]

I have an old jacket - a hein gericke all seasons jacket - the back protector is very old and perishing - I'm trying to find a replacement :

it is T shaped - 40cm high and 21 wide at the top - and only 16 at the bottom (where it fits in the pocket..)

I tried to add a picture but failed...

Does anyone have any ideas of a replacement thanks

[Horse]

Have a look at the softer D30 type, perhaps, as you may be able to trim it to fit.

Google images to look for the nearest shape and then size.

Thickness may be important if it has to fit in a sewn pocket.

The other type has a hard shell outer (often as overlapping 'plates' to allow flex. That would be far more difficult to adapt.

[MrLongbeard]

I got one of these https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... rod/354785 for my old HG jacket, had to muscle it in but it's in, check the sizes maybe trimming to fit would work.

[Tigs]

Thanks both - That one might do it - I found this that might do too https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... rod/552069

Its tricky to work out the sizes

[MrLongbeard]

Its tricky to work out the sizes

Rukka D3O Air XTR All-Back protector (size Small): 42.5 cm long x 24 cm wide (16.7 in long x 9.4 in wide)
Rukka D3O Air XTR All-Back protector (size Medium): 50 cm long x 26 cm wide (19.7 in long x 10.2 in wide)
Rukka D3O Air XTR All-Back protector (size Large): 54 cm long x 27.5 cm wide (21.3 in long x 10.8 in wide)

Taken from; https://www.mcgearhub.com/motorcycle-ar ... 0in%20wide) suggest you might want to double check from at least one other source

[PitaNaanRoti]

I’ve one that shape. Will check the make later when I get back.

[asmethurst99]

I’ve got the same back protector- bought for my Rukka jacket - quite heavy but once it’s on you don’t notice it - fcmoto always worth checking for prices .
https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/en ... ector-0004

[Supermofo]

I got one of these https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... rod/354785 for my old HG jacket, had to muscle it in but it's in, check the sizes maybe trimming to fit would work.

I have one of these in my Furygan leather and it's a decent back protector that feels reasonably substantial.

I also have one of these in my Oxford textile jacket as the pocket isn't big enough to fit the Furygan D3O. I don't rate it as much as it's not as long, more covering the top and middle of your back only.
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... rod/394098

I also have strap on (oh er) Knox and Oxford level 2 back protectors, both of which give better coverage than the ones that fit into pockets but TBH I can't be arsed most of the time as if you go anywhere it's an extra thing to lug about.

[Alan PBTD]

From experiance and TD Paramedics recommendation I'd never run a ''pocketed'' BP. Unless your jacket is well tight the BP will ''slip and turn'' when you're sliding down the road and could end up out of the pocket / and or all over the place - and have seen it a few times with full one piece leathers. Personally buy the best BP u can afford ( and correct sizing ) with shoulder straps and a nice wide Kidney belt / velcro fastening.

Unfortunatley have seen some serious injuries and massive brusing with ill fitting BP's. Even a brused Coccyx isn't fun.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I came off my R1 in a road accident in 2000, went straight up and down and landed on Coccyx, it hurt for at least 6 months.

[Hot_Air]

Ouch! I don’t know why coccyx protection isn’t more common.

Some premium brands (e.g. Held, BMW, Klim, Hideout) offer optional coccyx armour for their trousers. Recently, Held launched D30 coccyx armour that’s Level 2 yet thin. But most other brands miss the opportunity to sell more armour as an optional upgrade.

[Noggin]

From experiance and TD Paramedics recommendation I'd never run a ''pocketed'' BP. Unless your jacket is well tight the BP will ''slip and turn'' when you're sliding down the road and could end up out of the pocket / and or all over the place - and have seen it a few times with full one piece leathers. Personally buy the best BP u can afford ( and correct sizing ) with shoulder straps and a nice wide Kidney belt / velcro fastening.

Unfortunatley have seen some serious injuries and massive brusing with ill fitting BP's. Even a brused Coccyx isn't fun.

100%

I know I've said this before and am probably a bit boring with it, but I am 100% convinced that ill fitting shoulder protection in a jacket that was too big around the shoulders was a big cause of my shoulder injury being as bad as it was. I firmly believe that with the correct gear, I'd have 'knocked the ball off the top of the humerus' as everyone thought I had (for the first few days).

I now prefer to ride without the hard armour rather than have stuff that might move. The back plate in my jacket is relatively soft, but now you've mentioned this, I'll go and check just how soft!! The shoulder stuff I have is soft, heavy, squash ball stuff. I know the jacket still isn't a great fit, but at least with the softer style armour, I have less worry about it

Next summer, I'd prefer to wear my 'road proof' hoody and a mesh thing with armour in the RIGHT places - until I can afford MTM with decent (not the hard plastic) armour

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Ouch! I don’t know why coccyx protection isn’t more common.

I don't know how you'd make it effective and comfortable.

[Hot_Air]

A back protector that extends down to the coccyx mightn’t be comfortable. However, trousers with coccyx protection can be comfy (provided the armour is soft, thin enough and in the right place).

You can (and I did) retrofit Velcro to your trousers and one of the thinner D30 hip protectors to create coccyx armour. It’s soft and squishy, hence comfortable. Easier still, trousers from the above brands (Held, BMW, etc.) come with a pocket for the Exosafe D30 Coccyx Protector. It’s designed for comfort.

I have no clue how effective it is, although the Exosafe protector has passed CE level 2.

Is that D30 armour in your pants, or are you just pleased to see me?

[Horse]

Is that D30 armour in your pants, or are you just pleased to see me?

Should have put it in the back

My old ProTec jacket had an 'above the waist' back protector and 'below' coccyx pad.

[Scootabout]

Perhaps we should be wearing these, too?

[Count Steer]

Perhaps we should be wearing these, too?

LOL. I turned up to a works Paintball event with mine. Popping it in the ol' groinal area one of our scholars asked 'What's that for?' I said 'Ah. You've not been shot in the nads before have you?' He went quite pale.

[Hot_Air]

Perhaps we should be wearing these, too?

Funnily enough, Dainese’s developing something similar. See 1 minute 57 seconds into this PIONEERS Project video: “bike underpants developed for pelvis safety and maximum freedom.”

I’m looking forward to them being available in VR46 colours

[Count Steer]

Perhaps we should be wearing these, too?

Funnily enough, Dainese’s developing something similar. See 1 minute 57 seconds into this PIONEERS Project video: “bike underpants developed for pelvis safety and maximum freedom.”

I’m looking forward to them being available in VR46 colours

And worn on the outside à la Clockwork Orange.