Ducati Superlight

[Potter]

@mboy are the dimensions the same as the KTM, specifically seat height?

[Potter]

On an entirely different note, if I was going to buy a bike that I didn't really care about the looks but just wanted it for the way it rode, then I'd perhaps get an MT10 SP, which I hear is amazing.

[weeksy]

Tbh mate, based upon what I know of what you like, you'd enjoy a 690/701 way more

[Potter]

Yeah I think so too, but I don't really know what I like these days, I'll always like my old classics but I should perhaps have a proper try of some new modern bikes to see what they're like. My old MX dealer up in Kendal has one of those GasGas as a demo bike, if I'd have known I could have gone up during the week and had a try.

[Skub]

Yeah I think so too, but I don't really know what I like these days, I'll always like my old classics but I should perhaps have a proper try of some new modern bikes to see what they're like. My old MX dealer up in Kendal has one of those GasGas as a demo bike, if I'd have known I could have gone up during the week and had a try.

Old Chinese proverb.

To want is better than to have.




Sometimes.

[Potter]

Perhaps you're right but I'm blown away by how much better the Gas Gas bike looks compared to the KTM, and it's basically the same bike.
It also looks like everything the Hypermotard should be, if Ducati made that they could stick a £12k price tag on it and they'd go like hot cakes.

[Skub]

I'm of a similar mind regarding old Kawa strokers. I regularly drool over pics of restored examples. I'd love one (or two) but I know all too well I'd seldom use such a bike and it would spend it's sad life unridden and getting in my way.

Still......

[Supermofo]

Perhaps you're right but I'm blown away by how much better the Gas Gas bike looks compared to the KTM, and it's basically the same bike.
It also looks like everything the Hypermotard should be, if Ducati made that they could stick a £12k price tag on it and they'd go like hot cakes.

To be fair the Husky 701 looks better too, funny that the KTM is the worse looking of the 3!

[weeksy]

Perhaps you're right but I'm blown away by how much better the Gas Gas bike looks compared to the KTM, and it's basically the same bike.
It also looks like everything the Hypermotard should be, if Ducati made that they could stick a £12k price tag on it and they'd go like hot cakes.

To be fair the Husky 701 looks better too, funny that the KTM is the worse looking of the 3!

Shame to delete accounts, but, well.

*Off with his head*

[Supermofo]

Perhaps you're right but I'm blown away by how much better the Gas Gas bike looks compared to the KTM, and it's basically the same bike.
It also looks like everything the Hypermotard should be, if Ducati made that they could stick a £12k price tag on it and they'd go like hot cakes.

To be fair the Husky 701 looks better too, funny that the KTM is the worse looking of the 3!

Shame to delete accounts, but, well.

*Off with his head*

Seriously though

[Skub]

My neighbour's son had one of those,it shat itself bigtime. Luckily for him it was still under warranty.

[Supermofo]

My neighbour's son had one of those,it shat itself bigtime. Luckily for him it was still under warranty.

Least it looked nice whilst waiting for the AA

[Potter]

Perhaps you're right but I'm blown away by how much better the Gas Gas bike looks compared to the KTM, and it's basically the same bike.
It also looks like everything the Hypermotard should be, if Ducati made that they could stick a £12k price tag on it and they'd go like hot cakes.

To be fair the Husky 701 looks better too, funny that the KTM is the worse looking of the 3!

Shame to delete accounts, but, well.

*Off with his head*

The KTM might be a better bike, I honestly don't know, but you'd have to admit that the Gas Gas knocks the socks off it in looks and it's literally just a paint job and wheels.

I overanalyse everything though, I'm quite keen on a Gas Gas, but I'd use it for about 200 miles a year and it would be out of warranty well before I even took it for the first service, so if it went bang I'd be knackered and I've already got too many bikes and cars that are hand grenades - in fact Ive got a 350LC, an old 1930's single, a Range Rover and a Defender, it's not if it but when one (or all) goes thermonuclear, lol.

[weeksy]

I don't think the KTM, husky, gas have anything different to say 1 is better than the other apart from paint. I'm not aware of any technical difference

As for it going bang, nah, KTM have been making the 690 engine for 15+ years. It's not completely bullet proof, but it ain't far off it.

[Supermofo]

I overanalyse everything though, I'm quite keen on a Gas Gas, but I'd use it for about 200 miles a year and it would be out of warranty well before I even took it for the first service, so if it went bang I'd be knackered and I've already got too many bikes and cars that are hand grenades - in fact Ive got a 350LC, an old 1930's single, a Range Rover and a Defender, it's not if it but when one (or all) goes thermonuclear, lol.

I put 15k trouble free miles on my 690. And I presume the Gas Gas has the later head design so even the rocker arms should be fine. Plenty of 690s with a fair few miles on out there. It's no traditional SM timebomb.

[Mr. Dazzle]

In fact Ive got a 350LC, an old 1930's single, a Range Rover and a Defender, it's not if it but when one (or all) goes thermonuclear, lol.

Maybe it's like the theory that your body always prioritises the worst injury....you don't notice a headache when you break your arm.

You just need the Gas Gas to not be the most unreliable.

[ChrisW]

Why not have all three?

[Potter]

The seat height on the KTM I tried was ok, it sagged a couple of inches with me on it and I had both balls of feet down comfortably.
The seat height of the Gas Gas seems higher, but it's supposed to be the same bike.

[crust]

Whilst the Husky, KTM and Gas Gas bikes share a lot of the same parts, each is different in subtle ways. Husky is the premium brand, then KTM with Gas Gas being the budget brand or as the marketing dept call it - the enabling brand.

Haven't had a good look at the 690s differences, the enduros have different exhaust and suspension types, the seat heights vary. One of the locals has a 450 Gas Gas and it's got a number of obvious differences, the rear suspension is a linkage type like Huskys but with different linkages which gives it a lower seat height, the exhaust doesn't have the boost bottle chamber amongst other differences.

Have to agree, the Gas Gas bikes do look the nicest of the three brands.

[Skub]

Have to agree, the Gas Gas bikes do look the nicest of the three brands.

That's crust deleted now too.