Yorick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:18 am
I have one and the suspension lets it down, badly. My Husky TE300i is light years ahead, but the Beta was built to a price.
Completely disagree, there was nothing wrong with the suspension on the Xtrainer I had, conversely, most KTM's I've ridden and the one I owned have suspension that lacks compliance - can't comment on how they are racing-wise as I don't.
The Beta suspension was superb at everything apart from riding like a loon, when it got a bit unsettled. You shouldn't really be hooning around on lanes anyway.
How old is your Beta, mine was a 2017 model
Mine is 2017. All our riding is hard enduro. I couldn't keep up with the lads.
The Husky is 2019 and just goes where I point it.
I agree it won't keep up with full on enduro pace riding, I rode a 300tpi and, much as it was great fun, I thought it was a bit much for green-laning. The Xtrainer is brilliant at technical stuff and it's low seat and light weight mean that if you come a bit unstuck in deep muddy ruts, rocks or traversing you get half a chance of getting your foot down and not dropping it. If you have to put your foot down downhill on an EXC you'll be dropping it!
I was in Wales and a guy following me through some technical rocky bits said 'you'll find it easier if you go faster', 'why's that?' I replied, 'I couldn't go as slow as that as I couldn't keep my balance' - ''that's because you're not riding one of these' I replied!
The only downer for me was the limited range, even with the bigger tank on.
Completely disagree, there was nothing wrong with the suspension on the Xtrainer I had, conversely, most KTM's I've ridden and the one I owned have suspension that lacks compliance - can't comment on how they are racing-wise as I don't.
The Beta suspension was superb at everything apart from riding like a loon, when it got a bit unsettled. You shouldn't really be hooning around on lanes anyway.
How old is your Beta, mine was a 2017 model
Mine is 2017. All our riding is hard enduro. I couldn't keep up with the lads.
The Husky is 2019 and just goes where I point it.
I agree it won't keep up with full on enduro pace riding, I rode a 300tpi and, much as it was great fun, I thought it was a bit much for green-laning. The Xtrainer is brilliant at technical stuff and it's low seat and light weight mean that if you come a bit unstuck in deep muddy ruts, rocks or traversing you get half a chance of getting your foot down and not dropping it. If you have to put your foot down downhill on an EXC you'll be dropping it!
I was in Wales and a guy following me through some technical rocky bits said 'you'll find it easier if you go faster', 'why's that?' I replied, 'I couldn't go as slow as that as I couldn't keep my balance' - ''that's because you're not riding one of these' I replied!
The only downer for me was the limited range, even with the bigger tank on.
Yorick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:21 am
Mine is 2017. All our riding is hard enduro. I couldn't keep up with the lads.
The Husky is 2019 and just goes where I point it.
I agree it won't keep up with full on enduro pace riding, I rode a 300tpi and, much as it was great fun, I thought it was a bit much for green-laning. The Xtrainer is brilliant at technical stuff and it's low seat and light weight mean that if you come a bit unstuck in deep muddy ruts, rocks or traversing you get half a chance of getting your foot down and not dropping it. If you have to put your foot down downhill on an EXC you'll be dropping it!
I was in Wales and a guy following me through some technical rocky bits said 'you'll find it easier if you go faster', 'why's that?' I replied, 'I couldn't go as slow as that as I couldn't keep my balance' - ''that's because you're not riding one of these' I replied!
The only downer for me was the limited range, even with the bigger tank on.
Count Steer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:59 am
You can off-road on a big adv bike but I've always thought it was like teaching a dog to dance. You can, but why would you?
Keep the GT and go light I say. Apart from anything else, they're easier to pick up.
I agree it won't keep up with full on enduro pace riding, I rode a 300tpi and, much as it was great fun, I thought it was a bit much for green-laning. The Xtrainer is brilliant at technical stuff and it's low seat and light weight mean that if you come a bit unstuck in deep muddy ruts, rocks or traversing you get half a chance of getting your foot down and not dropping it. If you have to put your foot down downhill on an EXC you'll be dropping it!
I was in Wales and a guy following me through some technical rocky bits said 'you'll find it easier if you go faster', 'why's that?' I replied, 'I couldn't go as slow as that as I couldn't keep my balance' - ''that's because you're not riding one of these' I replied!
The only downer for me was the limited range, even with the bigger tank on.
Completely disagree, there was nothing wrong with the suspension on the Xtrainer I had, conversely, most KTM's I've ridden and the one I owned have suspension that lacks compliance - can't comment on how they are racing-wise as I don't.
The Beta suspension was superb at everything apart from riding like a loon, when it got a bit unsettled. You shouldn't really be hooning around on lanes anyway.
How old is your Beta, mine was a 2017 model
Mine is 2017. All our riding is hard enduro. I couldn't keep up with the lads.
The Husky is 2019 and just goes where I point it.
I agree it won't keep up with full on enduro pace riding, I rode a 300tpi and, much as it was great fun, I thought it was a bit much for green-laning. The Xtrainer is brilliant at technical stuff and it's low seat and light weight mean that if you come a bit unstuck in deep muddy ruts, rocks or traversing you get half a chance of getting your foot down and not dropping it. If you have to put your foot down downhill on an EXC you'll be dropping it!
I was in Wales and a guy following me through some technical rocky bits said 'you'll find it easier if you go faster', 'why's that?' I replied, 'I couldn't go as slow as that as I couldn't keep my balance' - ''that's because you're not riding one of these' I replied!
The only downer for me was the limited range, even with the bigger tank on.
Yorick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:21 am
Mine is 2017. All our riding is hard enduro. I couldn't keep up with the lads.
The Husky is 2019 and just goes where I point it.
I agree it won't keep up with full on enduro pace riding, I rode a 300tpi and, much as it was great fun, I thought it was a bit much for green-laning. The Xtrainer is brilliant at technical stuff and it's low seat and light weight mean that if you come a bit unstuck in deep muddy ruts, rocks or traversing you get half a chance of getting your foot down and not dropping it. If you have to put your foot down downhill on an EXC you'll be dropping it!
I was in Wales and a guy following me through some technical rocky bits said 'you'll find it easier if you go faster', 'why's that?' I replied, 'I couldn't go as slow as that as I couldn't keep my balance' - ''that's because you're not riding one of these' I replied!
The only downer for me was the limited range, even with the bigger tank on.
What did get range wise on the standard tank?
Obviously very dependent on how hard you are riding but I'd have thought on average 45 before it went on reserve - closer to 60 with the bigger tank
I agree it won't keep up with full on enduro pace riding, I rode a 300tpi and, much as it was great fun, I thought it was a bit much for green-laning. The Xtrainer is brilliant at technical stuff and it's low seat and light weight mean that if you come a bit unstuck in deep muddy ruts, rocks or traversing you get half a chance of getting your foot down and not dropping it. If you have to put your foot down downhill on an EXC you'll be dropping it!
I was in Wales and a guy following me through some technical rocky bits said 'you'll find it easier if you go faster', 'why's that?' I replied, 'I couldn't go as slow as that as I couldn't keep my balance' - ''that's because you're not riding one of these' I replied!
The only downer for me was the limited range, even with the bigger tank on.
What did get range wise on the standard tank?
Obviously very dependent on how hard you are riding but I'd have thought on average 45 before it went on reserve - closer to 60 with the bigger tank
The FI system on the te300i engines is far more frugal than the carb on the Beta.
I get 4 or 5 hours riding.
Hi thanks for all of the replies.
Being pragmatic means lack of space rules out a third bike.
I definitely want something I can tour on including some Euro trips and being realistic I appreciate it’ll mainly be on the road but the state of some road surfaces and a desire to explore some backroads and more remote areas means an adventure type bike is the best option.
Currently thinking about the following 3
-KTM 890R slightly more off road potential and buying a 2021 bike may get a deal. Need to pay for extras to get the best spec.
-Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro good spec as standard and similar price to the above when extras added. Gets good reviews in the press
-Ducati Desert X more expensive, unknown quantity and not available until May/June
Hoping to try to get demos on the first two when the weather improves but anyone got any experience or advice?
Cheers
Steve
Hi again
So the GT is sold and I think I’ve narrowed the choice down to 2.
KTM 890R Adventure and Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro.
The KTM is more off-road biased and the Triumph slightly more road biased but both capable of covering all bases.
There is no KTM R demo available locally so I’ve got a demo on an 890S on Wednesday so I can see what the motor is like. Also no Rally demo locally.
Both sets of salesman say that each will do the job I want and that is to tour, including to Europe (Spain/Alps etc) and then explore when I get there. But they would wouldn’t they.
I have a good relationship with the KTM dealer, not so with Triumph. The KTM dealer is slightly closer too.
I can get a good deal on the KTM and for a similar speccd bike it’s £1k cheaper.
More locally I want to explore more remote roads and lanes including mild off-road. Some touring in this country too-pretty much everywhere.
I think the KTM gives me more scope to expand my off-road riding if my skills develop.
Typing this I think I’m convincing myself towards the KTM but any experience, thoughts and opinions gratefully received.
Cheers
Steve
