Who needs a 1200cc ADV?

[Count Steer]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9xr4yr1wxo

When you can have 250. Quite a trip - and not the shortest route.

Respect.

[Skub]

Cool read. I think I'd much prefer a smaller bike to travel,rather than those horrid,overweight behemoths. The letter 'B' in BMW stands for behemoth. Fact.

Behemoth Motorcycle Wanker.

[Count Steer]

Behemoth Motorcycle Wanker.

Oi! I resembled that remark!

[Dodgy69]

Good price this...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116273040104 ... media=COPY

More Enfield fun here fun.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156317549461 ... media=COPY

[KungFooBob]

Good price this...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116273040104 ... media=COPY

More Enfield fun here fun.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156317549461 ... media=COPY

Anyone who buys a 450 Himalayan that isn't the black and gold one, is a wrong'un.

[Dodgy69]

They are nice, but not nice enough.

[dern]

They make no sense to me, I’d rather have the tenere, same weight give or take but better suspension and more power. The only way the Himalayan would make sense as an adventure bike is if it were 30kg lighter.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I remember when nearly everyone used XT600s that made 30bhp at best.

[Taipan]

The Mondo Enduro lot did it on DR350s!

[matt]

https://cfmoto-motorcycle.eu/uk/en/moto ... ring/450mt

These are getting good reviews,all sold out in the UK till next year now I believe

[Dickyboy]

Wasn't it the c90 adventures guy who packed two c90s into half the shipping box that a single gs1200 needed & then tracked all the Americas.

[Whysub]

I remember when nearly everyone used XT600s that made 30bhp at best.

My XT500 had 25 bhp I think. My DR350 a bit less. The DR was far far better off road that the XT.

Both were pigs to kickstart once warm.

[darthpunk]

The instructor who did my CBT had a GS 1200, he showed us the difference between getting the CB125F off the center stand and his BMW, the Beemer took a more gymnastic approach with a sprinkling of good luck and magic - Nice bikes, must be great tourers, but practicality as offroad bikes for grand tours without some sort of support vehicle/winch baffles me

[Dodgy69]

Your right, more care required with the heavier bikes. With my GS I think I give the bar a little push so it falls on me rather than the other way.

[KungFooBob]

I had a K1200RS, the big bulbus one, the last of the flying bricks.

I could get it on the centre stand one handed with very little effort.

[Rockburner]

I had a K1200RS, the big bulbus one, the last of the flying bricks.

I could get it on the centre stand one handed with very little effort.

Hah - I can get the Rockster onto the centre-stand while I'm still on it.

That era of BMWs were very well balanced on the center-stands too - I do'nt know WHY BMW decided to put the centre-stands right under the centre-of-mass, sometimes it's useful, but sometimes it's not, I had a couple of instances of the Rockster rolling off the centre-stand when facing only very slightly downhill. If the bike rocked forward, even very slowly, it would very gently roll off the stand, then collapse in a heap. (I believe that wasn't helped at all by having a short Paralever arm which pulled the rear wheel down, increases ground-clearance, but also means both wheels are only a millimetre or so off the ground when on the centre-stand. Ideally I should have a slightly longer centre-stand on the bike.)

The K1200R centre-stand was a lot further back and made the bike more stable (albeit harder to get onto the stand).

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I remember when nearly everyone used XT600s that made 30bhp at best.

My XT500 had 25 bhp I think. My DR350 a bit less. The DR was far far better off road that the XT.

Both were pigs to kickstart once warm.

A mate had a JDM DR250 that had usd forks and adjustable ride height rear shock, it was excellent off road, another mate had a DR350 on which he'd sound the shock up really hard, it was crap everywhere.

I had a DRZ400 that was an excellent trail bike and not that uncomfortable.

[KungFooBob]

I had a JDM DR250SHM with the adjust able suspension and USD forks. It was an ace little bike, chopped it for a KDX220R which was a fuck ton better at everything... except you had to pre-mix the fuel.

[Bigyin]

Wasn't it the c90 adventures guy who packed two c90s into half the shipping box that a single gs1200 needed & then tracked all the Americas.

Yeah Ed March …. He also took apart the C90 and put it into 2 bags as hand luggage to cross the Darian Gap rather than the couple of thousand dollars to ship the bike complete ….. have a look for his latest lunacy crossing the Utah expanse of 1000 miles is what is basically a kids jeep

The instructor who did my CBT had a GS 1200, he showed us the difference between getting the CB125F off the center stand and his BMW, the Beemer took a more gymnastic approach with a sprinkling of good luck and magic - Nice bikes, must be great tourers, but practicality as offroad bikes for grand tours without some sort of support vehicle/winch baffles me

Friend of mine retired from plod and went round the world on his GS1150 with his missus pillion. A bike any smaller would have been more of an issue for both of them and all the luggage

[matt]

I was in Berlin the past week,I saw this vstrom 650. Looks like it's been around a bit!