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Just when you rural types thought that the 'march' of automated vehicles wouldn't reach you . . .

The driverless pod maker Navya is trialling a new service connecting a railway station in the Drome region with a village three miles away.

The shuttle, from Crest station to Ecosite du Val de Drome will be the first to run in a rural area on roads open to normal traffic.

The shuttle will serve seven stops en route.

Navya says the trial will provide an opportunity to meet many challenges alternating between urban and rural areas. It explains that most of the experiments with autonomous vehicles are located in towns, on a dedicated site or in a largely marked environment. The rural area “constitutes a still unexplored field of experimentation”, it says.

Uber's self-driving operator charged over fatal crash

The back-up driver of an Uber self-driving car that killed a pedestrian has been charged with negligent homicide.

Elaine Herzberg, aged 49, was hit by the car as she wheeled a bicycle across the road in Tempe, Arizona, in 2018.

Investigators said the car's safety driver, Rafael Vasquez, had been streaming an episode of the television show The Voice at the time.
Ms Vasquez pleaded not guilty, and was released to await trial.

Uber will not face criminal charges, after a decision last year that there was "no basis for criminal liability" for the corporation.

The accident was the first death on record involving a self-driving car, and resulted in Uber ending its testing of the technology in Arizona.



This rather begs the question as to how to can force the back-up driver to remain vigilant at all times?

Lutin wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:08 pm This rather begs the question as to how to can force the back-up driver to remain vigilant at all times?

I posted a link on the TRC thread to an article about this.

Google a5i simon tong safety driver

Edit: I can't find it right now

Edit: nearest I can see, but not the article
https://catdrivertraining.co.uk/car-blo ... r-testing/

Canada Tesla driver charged over 'napping while speeding'

A Canadian man has been charged with dangerous driving for allegedly taking a nap while his self-driving Tesla car clocked up more than 90mph (150km/h).

Police said both front seats were fully reclined, and the driver and passenger were apparently asleep when they were alerted to the incident in Alberta.

When police turned on emergency lights and other vehicles moved out of the way, the Tesla Model S sped up.

The 20-year-old driver from British Columbia is due in court in December.

He had initially been charged with speeding and handed a 24-hour licence suspension for fatigue, but was subsequently charged with dangerous driving.

The incident happened near Ponoka, some 100km south of Edmonton, in July.

"Nobody was looking out the windshield to see where the car was going," Police Sgt Darri Turnbull told CBC News.

He said that when they put on their emergency lights the Tesla accelerated, with vehicles ahead of it moving out of the way.

"Nobody appeared to be in the car, but the vehicle sped up because the line was clear in front."

He added: "I've been in policing for over 23 years, and the majority of that in traffic law enforcement, and I'm speechless. I've never, ever seen anything like this before but of course the technology wasn't there."

Tesla cars currently operate at a level-two Autopilot, which requires the driver to remain alert and ready to act, with hands on the wheel.


How do you cater for this level of stupidity?

Is driver stupidity a new phenomenon? How do we carer at the moment?

Horse wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:09 pm Is driver stupidity a new phenomenon? How do we carer at the moment?

I think what I should have written was that we appear to adding even more opportunities for driver stupidity.

Horse wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:09 pm Is driver stupidity a new phenomenon? How do we carer at the moment?

We have cars that usually crash in a few seconds if you ignore the controls.

Lutin wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:30 pm

Horse wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:09 pm Is driver stupidity a new phenomenon? How do we carer at the moment?

I think what I should have written was that we appear to adding even more opportunities for driver stupidity.

While also removing quite a lot of opportunities.

I haven't looked for a while, but last time I checked the total miles covered per accident was much higher for autopilot Teslas than it is for mortal drivers on the same road types.

Do you remember back on TRC (and probably elsewhere) there was much consternation that autobraking or adaptive cruise control (can't recall which) on some cars might not see bikes?

Here's a system being tested:



What could possibly go wrong?

(0:58 you can see the truck's brake lights)

This is a massive step in confidencein their automated systems (albeit in the context of a vast difference between how the UK and US implement 'safety drivers').

Mistaking a cattle grid for a wall - Somerset cattle grid mistaken for wall by car sensors

Cars have come off the road trying to cross a cattle grid after sensors mistook it for a wall and slammed on the brakes.

Somerset County Council said the grid had been "causing a very real danger to road users" on Hill Road in Minehead.

The grid, which was cut into the steep hill, "appeared to be an obstruction" to modern car sensors which automatically applied the brakes.

The county council has spent £70,000 "ironing out the problem".

A spokesman, said the grid had to be replaced following a "number of incidents of cars leaving the road" but "thankfully there have been no serious collisions".

To create a "virtually smooth ride across the grid", highways teams spent a month raising around 90ft (27.4m) of road and redesigning the "carriageway approaches".


So, is the road at fault here or the cars' electronics?

Sorry I forgot, what are these for again.

Keeping cattle and horse in defined areas.

Horse wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:56 pm Keeping cattle and horse in defined areas.

Don't forget the sheep, and the llamas.

demographic wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:37 pm

Horse wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:56 pm Keeping cattle and horse in defined areas.

Don't forget the sheep, and the llamas.

Whatever they told you, it's all lies

Where I lived as a kid we had a gate on the road from the unenclosed common land (the fell) and the walled off road between the fields.

The sheep used to wait round that area and eventually some numpty (usually a tourist) would dick about getting through the gate and the sheep would get to the (greener) roadside grass.

Total pain in the arse and now there's a cattle grid there instead. Far simper.

Onto self driving cars.
I don't mind the idea but I still enjoy driving so I don't want one myself.

If I paid my council tax to that local authority I would be peeved that they'd spent £70,000 fixing a "problem" that is completely the responsibility of the vehicle designers.

iansoady wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:20 pm If I paid my council tax to that local authority I would be peeved that they'd spent £70,000 fixing a "problem" that is completely the responsibility of the vehicle designers.

I'll remember that next time you expect my taxes to pay for an ambulance when you crash