MOT style checks for bikes

[Lutin]

Does anyone on here know which countries, particularly in Europe, have an MOT style check for bikes and which do not?

Here in Ireland there are no such check on bikes, any other countries?

[Horse]

Most European countries already have a mandatory periodical technical inspection (PTI) for motorcycles, some are going to introduce it in 2022 and three countries (Finland, Ireland and the Netherlands) do not intend to introduce PTI. Some other countries also have a mandatory PTI for mopeds. PTI for all motor vehicles is regulated under Directive 2014/45/EU. Prior to this directive the providers of technical inspections, the industry and the road safety organizations started a strong lobby to include motorcycles.

From:

https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/ep-tech ... spections/

[DefTrap]

Here in Ireland there are no such check on bikes, any other countries?

France. There was recent talk of introducing it, but it was quashed. (Cars are every 2 years by the way but, IME, the standard for a pass is lower than in the UK).

[Noggin]

Here in Ireland there are no such check on bikes, any other countries?

France. There was recent talk of introducing it, but it was quashed. (Cars are every 2 years by the way but, IME, the standard for a pass is lower than in the UK).

Isn't it still on the table?

I'm not sure why everyone is up in arms about introducing a check. Having ridden a mates bike here with a pretty bad head bearing, I don't think people check their bikes as they should! So a 'back up' isn't a bad idea!!

[Yorick]

Just pay a garage half hour to give it the once over?

[iansoady]

Yes, but many owners won't bother as it costs and they don't have to.

[DefTrap]

Bikes are a little different to regular transport, it's more hobbyists and recreational, they do far fewer road miles, there are far less of them on the road and they tend to have a much shorter lifespan. So the risk of no annual safety check is on the low side. You may as well start talking about mandatory safety checks on pushbikes.

[Skub]

Northern Ireland's MOT system is run by the DVA. Unlike the rest of the UK,they only test the vehicle,if it fails the owner does the work,then books a retest. Depending on who you get on the day,it's a lottery with the test result. Booking is a major ballache,as it won't allow early booking,then when you actually can get a date,it's months later. Bit of a bitch if you need to tax the vehicle.

[mangocrazy]

Here in Ireland there are no such check on bikes, any other countries?

France. There was recent talk of introducing it, but it was quashed. (Cars are every 2 years by the way but, IME, the standard for a pass is lower than in the UK).

For vehicules de collection (classic vehicles) it's every 5 years, which is handy.

As for getting a bike MoT'd in the UK, I'd always seek out a scooter place that does MoT's. We have one near us (right next door to Sheffield United football ground) that specialises in Lambrettas and Vespas and has no interest in doing any work on motorbikes, so there's no incentive to fail the bike with a view to a nice little earner.

[Sadlonelygit]

over 'ere, as has been mentioned, atm bikes do not require any form of inspection.
les motards are up in arms about it........however the amount of 'nickel' bikes i have been to look at that have bald tyres, ratchet head bearings, 3-4" of play in the swing arm. the list is endless. i'm part of a local advanced bike group and we've had guys turn up with blown fork seals for a ride out.
a level playing field is needed for safety critical items and i'm sorry to say this,but we cant be trusted.

[Sadlonelygit]

Bikes are a little different to regular transport, it's more hobbyists and recreational, they do far fewer road miles, there are far less of them on the road and they tend to have a much shorter lifespan. So the risk of no annual safety check is on the low side. You may as well start talking about mandatory safety checks on pushbikes.

Pushbikes dont do 180 mph.

Le CT2RM is being introduced from April this year. FFMC are encouraging members not to use CT centres that perform bike tests for anything!
I dont think they get the whole MANDATORY aspect of it, rather than a mere suggestion, perhaps.
Every motard I have spoken to seem to think their liberties are being stripped away, rather than a common sense safety item. When I ask them would they buy/drive a car without a CT they always say no.
I think the biggest issue is with conformity. Exhausts, indicators, plates and registrations. Many a bike is not registered to the owner (it costs money to transfer) which also makes it difficult for the authorities to send out speed camera tickets iyswim. Many bikes have been ratted or customised, and no-one knows how draconian the new tests are going to be. I would imagine FB marketplace is going to be busy fairly soon!

[Scootabout]

and no-one knows how draconian the new tests are going to be.

I suspect that's a large part of the fear. No longer possible to modify bikes. Haven't there been moves to prevent 'tampering' with original specs? Probably there is a suspicion that this will be enforced via 'controle technique' (MoT).

Actually, as an aside, it was only recently that I learnt that the UK MoT for bikes does not include an emissions test. So you can remove the cat from your Euro 4, 5 etc bike, instantly eliminating that emissions standard, and it won't be checked.
Am I the only one who didn't know that? I don't intend to do it, by the way, for environmental reasons.

[MrLongbeard]

Am I the only one who didn't know that?

Yes, it's still illegal, just not checked.

[Yorick]

Am I the only one who didn't know that?

Yes, it's still illegal, just not checked.

It is here.

[Sadlonelygit]

Am I the only one who didn't know that?

Yes, it's still illegal, just not checked.

Interesting! My Yamaha approved and installed akrapovich is distinctly lacking in any form of emissions devices!

[Noggin]

Le CT2RM is being introduced from April this year. FFMC are encouraging members not to use CT centres that perform bike tests for anything!
I dont think they get the whole MANDATORY aspect of it, rather than a mere suggestion, perhaps.
Every motard I have spoken to seem to think their liberties are being stripped away, rather than a common sense safety item. When I ask them would they buy/drive a car without a CT they always say no.
I think the biggest issue is with conformity. Exhausts, indicators, plates and registrations. Many a bike is not registered to the owner (it costs money to transfer) which also makes it difficult for the authorities to send out speed camera tickets iyswim. Many bikes have been ratted or customised, and no-one knows how draconian the new tests are going to be. I would imagine FB marketplace is going to be busy fairly soon!

Yup - I won't talk about the bike CT here with other bikers cos I am fairly pro (well, not anti anyway!) and I don't think that's the way to make friends here!!

[The Spin Doctor]

France. There was recent talk of introducing it, but it was quashed. (Cars are every 2 years by the way but, IME, the standard for a pass is lower than in the UK).

They're back!

The 'quash' got quashed in their supreme court. The mandatory roadworthiness (contrôle technique, or CT) tests for two-wheeled vehicles are set to come into force from April 2024 in France.

I've been covering the on-off-on-off and finally back on again saga in my Elevenses webcast.

[Whysub]

It's every two years here in Spain, and that includes an emissions test. It's quite a thorough check. You can customise, but you need to have fitting certificates of approved items, such as exhaust system/endcans.

I put a deep scratch in the heat shield of my Himalayan exhaust. To cover it I put an Aliexpress Akropovic badge over the scatch. Come the bikes first ITV, the tester wanted to see the fitting certificate for the endcan. I told him it was just a badge on the Enfield exhaust, but he still took an age checking all the writing on the can.

[Sadlonelygit]

With typical French efficiency, bikes registered before April 2017 will need a CT2RM from this April, however, no action will be taken against anyone until August sometime, giving everyone a chance to get tested before Mr Gendarme starts sharpening his pencil!
This also means, that anyone in France, in September, on a motorcycle can expect a tug. Be warned.
Apparently there was to be an enormous FFMC rally in Toulon this weekend, but it's going to be raining, and les motards don't do rain.

[mangocrazy]

This also means, that anyone in France, in September, on a motorcycle can expect a tug. Be warned.

Cheers, I'll make sure I carry all my docs with me when we go over in September. I doubt that UK reg plates will deter a diligent gendarme on the lookout for easy meat.