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Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:32 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
Can anyone recommend one? Or have any ideas what to look out for or not when buying one?

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:37 pm
by Skub
The toolygoons will steal it,but you'll be able to watch them doing it. 8-)

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:38 pm
by ChrisW
I fitted a Ring doorbell a couple of months ago, along with some other cameras. Works fine, has two way audio, the motion alert zones were easy to customise. The battery is still easily on its first charge after a bit over two months.

This one: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9515929

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:39 pm
by KungFooBob
I could probably Google it, but do you have to pay a subscription to Ring?

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:41 pm
by ChrisW
Yep, eight quid a month. Think it's only if you want to auto save recordings.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:57 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
Skub wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:37 pm The toolygoons will steal it,but you'll be able to watch them doing it. 8-)
I think you're confusing the toolygoons with the TWOC'y lads. They're very different. Well, fairly different.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:58 pm
by Skub
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:57 pm
Skub wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:37 pm The toolygoons will steal it,but you'll be able to watch them doing it. 8-)
I think you're confusing the toolygoons with the TWOC'y lads. They're very different. Well, fairly different.
I heard they both have a penchant for fancy doorbells. :silent:

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:06 pm
by Count Steer
ChrisW wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:41 pm Yep, eight quid a month. Think it's only if you want to auto save recordings.
£8 a month?!! £96 pa? Yumpin yiminy. For what? A few Gb of storage. That's as crooked as the crooks that you'd get on the doorbell.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:10 pm
by KungFooBob
Looks like there is a free tier and two paid for subscriptions...

https://en-uk.ring.com/pages/copy-of-protect-plans

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:13 pm
by ChrisW
Count Steer wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:06 pm
ChrisW wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:41 pm Yep, eight quid a month. Think it's only if you want to auto save recordings.
£8 a month?!! £96 pa? Yumpin yiminy. For what? A few Gb of storage. That's as crooked as the crooks that you'd get on the doorbell.
I agree! There are some other benefits I think - face detection or something? If it had just been just for me I'd have bought a different solution but the ring stuff was much easier to share access to with two brothers.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:17 pm
by cheb
Count Steer wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:06 pm
ChrisW wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:41 pm Yep, eight quid a month. Think it's only if you want to auto save recordings.
£8 a month?!! £96 pa? Yumpin yiminy. For what? A few Gb of storage. That's as crooked as the crooks that you'd get on the doorbell.
Probably not as much as that, it'll be from only £7.99 a month.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:30 pm
by Count Steer
ChrisW wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:13 pm
Count Steer wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:06 pm
ChrisW wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:41 pm Yep, eight quid a month. Think it's only if you want to auto save recordings.
£8 a month?!! £96 pa? Yumpin yiminy. For what? A few Gb of storage. That's as crooked as the crooks that you'd get on the doorbell.
I agree! There are some other benefits I think - face detection or something? If it had just been just for me I'd have bought a different solution but the ring stuff was much easier to share access to with two brothers.
Face detection? Does it scour the Internet looking for visual matches for the guys in balaclavas, hoodies and ski masks that pitch up on the doorstep or while they're round the back robbing the shed? Next up, retinal scans of your Postie eh? I think The Circle/Every is a way off yet....

However did we survive without all this technology? :( As far as I can see, these Ring videos just end up on Nextdoor.com so people can say 'They're obviously East Europeans, they're wearing trackies and hoodies'). The police don't seem to give a :angry-cussingblack: about them.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:36 pm
by ChrisW
Count Steer wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:30 pm 'They're obviously East Europeans, they're wearing trackies and hoodies
That feature was an extra £1.99 a month.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:03 pm
by v8-powered
Eufy stuff is pretty good - we have a video doorbell and 4 cctv cameras. No fees for their services either....

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:34 pm
by Count Steer
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:32 pm Can anyone recommend one? Or have any ideas what to look out for or not when buying one?
Just stick some dummy ones around. They'll have the same deterrent effect ie not much.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:46 am
by Nordboy
I have ring doorbell and four more ring cameras covering the whole of the outside (and inside the garage) of my house. Ok, I pay the £8 a month, but that's 2 coffees, and I don't drink coffee.

The quality of them is very good and they really don't miss a thing. Mine are battery only, so it does take a bit of organising when the batteries are running out as a couple of my cameras are ladder height. But I have spare batteries so straight swaps.

They're easy to set up. That's what makes them good, they're simple and they work.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:13 am
by DefTrap
Some friends were glued to the feed from theirs, on holiday, watching cats go past, looking at delivery men, griping about how many visitors the house sitter was getting ...

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:49 pm
by Slenver
I've got a few, all Ring ones. Been very pleased generally.

With Ring specifically, they haven't made huge improvements for each new model, so you can save a load of wedge by just buying the cheaper models. Think ours are like v2 or something, current is 4 maybe. You've missed both Prime day and Black Friday though, when Amazon pretty much give them away.

The subscription isn't peanuts, but it does cover as many cameras as you have in one place I think. Or maybe just the higher tier... either way, it makes more sense if you have a few of them.

Bear in mind you want to have a strong wifi signal to wherever they are, plus you need to recharge every couple of months.

Worth it though.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:32 pm
by Count Steer
Slenver wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:49 pm I've got a few, all Ring ones. Been very pleased generally.

With Ring specifically, they haven't made huge improvements for each new model, so you can save a load of wedge by just buying the cheaper models. Think ours are like v2 or something, current is 4 maybe. You've missed both Prime day and Black Friday though, when Amazon pretty much give them away.

The subscription isn't peanuts, but it does cover as many cameras as you have in one place I think. Or maybe just the higher tier... either way, it makes more sense if you have a few of them.

Bear in mind you want to have a strong wifi signal to wherever they are, plus you need to recharge every couple of months.

Worth it though.
I'm intrigued. In what way are they worth it? Spend any time on nextdoor.com and there's endless footage of scrotes who don't give a toss about cameras and zero reports of the scrotes ever falling down the station stairs...not that we have a Police Station any more. You might as well put dummy cameras etc up for all the deterrent effect they have.

Re: Camera doorbell?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:57 pm
by Slenver
Count Steer wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:32 pm
Slenver wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:49 pm I've got a few, all Ring ones. Been very pleased generally.

With Ring specifically, they haven't made huge improvements for each new model, so you can save a load of wedge by just buying the cheaper models. Think ours are like v2 or something, current is 4 maybe. You've missed both Prime day and Black Friday though, when Amazon pretty much give them away.

The subscription isn't peanuts, but it does cover as many cameras as you have in one place I think. Or maybe just the higher tier... either way, it makes more sense if you have a few of them.

Bear in mind you want to have a strong wifi signal to wherever they are, plus you need to recharge every couple of months.

Worth it though.
I'm intrigued. In what way are they worth it? Spend any time on nextdoor.com and there's endless footage of scrotes who don't give a toss about cameras and zero reports of the scrotes ever falling down the station stairs...not that we have a Police Station any more. You might as well put dummy cameras etc up for all the deterrent effect they have.
All contextual and subjective really. I live in a genteel countryside location and we don't really have any crime. I mean, I'm sure we do but I'm not really aware of it. Whether the cameras are a deterrent or not, or would have value in the case of a burglary I couldn't really say. But they give some peace of mind.

More usefully, I know when someone's at the door 😀