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Just watched the sprint, enjoyed that,

4 dukes dukeing it out (well 3 as Bastianini was not trying anything)

Enea should of made a pass on Pecco, that would spice things up in the garage :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (surly Martin is replacing him next year)

Happy to see Alex look so good in that
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Pecco looked miserable in the interview while JM was much happier.
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Hmm..

“It was a risk to try to overtake him and also for me, it wouldn’t change anything at the moment. And Pecco this morning helped me to do some laps behind him and I saw something. It was good.”

Bastianini also has a vested interest in Bagnaia winning the world championship since, if Martin claims the title, Ducati have admitted they cannot rule out moving the Spaniard to the factory team at Bastianini’s expense.
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Yorick wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:49 am Pecco looked miserable in the interview while JM was much happier.
I think he knew he was Lucky to get 3rd, and also he behind Jorge
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Both Bagnaia and Martin looked tired and not their usual selves. Big pressure for all.
There's all kinds of anxiety now in case the team make a bad call on the tyre pressure rule lottery. I really hope this championship isn't decided in that way.
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Watching the GP,

Main question I am thinking is

“How many Ducati’s will try and over take Pecco”

I guess they would rather there mate wins Than Martin.


Hope I am wrong
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Well at least my fantasy motogp team got some points!
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Aside from the first few laps the big race was a dull affair.I fell asleep with 5 laps to go.
Moto2 made it halfway before becoming processional,despite,or maybe because of the talents of Pedro Acosta and Fermìn Aldeguer,the latest Spaniards to rule the world.

Even multiple pile ups couldn't stop Moto3 being the best GP racing. If you like your sport,it's unmissable.
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I SAID - I'M GLAD YOU GOT A WIN BUT THAT WAS A VERY DULL RACE TO WATCH!!

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Just to add to the joy,five riders have had official warnings for tyre pressure infringements. I really can see this championship being decided by the rulemongers. What a crock.

Bagnaia
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And just to rub salt in the wounds,Lecona and Bautista copped a warning too.
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How did they get SOOOOOOO far away from Martin?

How did Zarco get so far behind?? (I thought he was ok in the sprint?)

And yes, it wasn't particularly interesting :( For some reason I can't 'throw' Canal+ onto the tv from the iPad, so I mostly listened to it but even when I did try and watch it, it really wasn't interesting :( :(
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Skub wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:56 pm Just to add the the joy,five riders have had official warnings for tyre pressure infringements. I really can see this championship being decided by the rulemongers. What a crock.

Bagnaia
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And just to rub salt in the wounds,Lecona and Bautista copped a warning too.
I've missed the tyre pressure thing. What is this about?? Are they regulated on tyre pressures now???? :shock:
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Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:57 pm
Skub wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:56 pm Just to add the the joy,five riders have had official warnings for tyre pressure infringements. I really can see this championship being decided by the rulemongers. What a crock.

Bagnaia
Bastianini
And just to rub salt in the wounds,Lecona and Bautista copped a warning too.
I've missed the tyre pressure thing. What is this about?? Are they regulated on tyre pressures now???? :shock:
There are limits on tyre pressure for obvious safety reasons,which is fair enough,but teams are now in the position of having to guess where their rider will spend the race. If a rider gets stuck in a pack,then his tyre pressure will rise to the point where he loses grip,then it's catch 22. He needs to get clear air to cool his front tyre,but he doesn't have the grip to allow an overtake.
Conversely, if the team thinks a rider won't be leading from the front,they'll start him with a lower pressure,allowing him to safely progress in a group,but if he gets to the front,or isn't close to another rider,the gamble the team took on pressure may cop them a penalty.
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Skub wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:06 pm
Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:57 pm
Skub wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:56 pm Just to add the the joy,five riders have had official warnings for tyre pressure infringements. I really can see this championship being decided by the rulemongers. What a crock.

Bagnaia
Bastianini
And just to rub salt in the wounds,Lecona and Bautista copped a warning too.
I've missed the tyre pressure thing. What is this about?? Are they regulated on tyre pressures now???? :shock:
There are limits on tyre pressure for obvious safety reasons,which is fair enough,but teams are now in the position of having to guess where their rider will spend the race. If a rider gets stuck in a pack,then his tyre pressure will rise to the point where he loses grip,then it's catch 22. He needs to get clear air to cool his front tyre,but he doesn't have the grip to allow an overtake.
Conversely, if the team thinks a rider won't be leading from the front,they'll start him with a lower pressure,allowing him to safely progress in a group,but if he gets to the front,or isn't close to another rider,the gamble the team took on pressure may cop them a penalty.
Thank you

But, has the rule changed then?? I get the limit for safety reasons, but somethings changed??
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Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:21 pm But, has the rule changed then?? I get the limit for safety reasons, but somethings changed??
Aero has changed what's required from the front tyre before the front tyre has had a chance to be developed for the aero.
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I know I'm being a bit thick, but what I don't understand is why are people getting 'tyre pressure infringements'??

I've never heard of that before - just might not have been listening TBF. But it's the infringement bit I don't get.

Sorry - I know I'm asking stupid questions but I honestly don't understand whats going on with this!!
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Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:47 pm I know I'm being a bit thick, but what I don't understand is why are people getting 'tyre pressure infringements'??

I've never heard of that before - just might not have been listening TBF. But it's the infringement bit I don't get.

Sorry - I know I'm asking stupid questions but I honestly don't understand whats going on with this!!
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There is a min tyre pressure rule which means when tested at the end of a race, they have to have 1.9bar pressure in the front.
As you know from racing, tyres get hot. Hot tyres increase the gas pressure inside the tyre. Michelin race slicks turn greasy when too hard so teams are constantly guessing how much pressure to run, and if they get it wrong, it's either a penalty or 12th.

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Demannu wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:12 pm
Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:47 pm I know I'm being a bit thick, but what I don't understand is why are people getting 'tyre pressure infringements'??

I've never heard of that before - just might not have been listening TBF. But it's the infringement bit I don't get.

Sorry - I know I'm asking stupid questions but I honestly don't understand whats going on with this!!
Edith, you stupid woman!

There is a min tyre pressure rule which means when tested at the end of a race, they have to have 1.9bar pressure in the front.
As you know from racing, tyres get hot. Hot tyres increase the gas pressure inside the tyre. Michelin race slicks turn greasy when too hard so teams are constantly guessing how much pressure to run, and if they get it wrong, it's either a penalty or 12th.

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Perfect. Thank you

So, I guess the fact there are more problems at the mo is because they are racing somewhere hot?

Or have I just missed all the previous infringement penalties??

(And, TBF, I didn't know they tested the pressures at the end of the race!!!)
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ChrisW wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:46 pm I SAID - I'M GLAD YOU GOT A WIN BUT THAT WAS A VERY DULL RACE TO WATCH!!
I watched the first couple of laps then fast forwarded to the last lap, I don't think I missed anything.
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Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:21 pm
Demannu wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:12 pm
Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:47 pm I know I'm being a bit thick, but what I don't understand is why are people getting 'tyre pressure infringements'??

I've never heard of that before - just might not have been listening TBF. But it's the infringement bit I don't get.

Sorry - I know I'm asking stupid questions but I honestly don't understand whats going on with this!!
Edith, you stupid woman!

There is a min tyre pressure rule which means when tested at the end of a race, they have to have 1.9bar pressure in the front.
As you know from racing, tyres get hot. Hot tyres increase the gas pressure inside the tyre. Michelin race slicks turn greasy when too hard so teams are constantly guessing how much pressure to run, and if they get it wrong, it's either a penalty or 12th.

Hth
Perfect. Thank you

So, I guess the fact there are more problems at the mo is because they are racing somewhere hot?

Or have I just missed all the previous infringement penalties??

(And, TBF, I didn't know they tested the pressures at the end of the race!!!)
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