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Called the Superquadro Mono, the 659cc motor is claimed to be the highest revving and most powerful road-going single-cylinder ever produced, kicking out a claimed 76.4bhp in standard spec and an impressive 83.4bhp in track-ready form.

It’s also capable of engine speeds previously unimaginable for a non-race mono, revving up to 10,250rpm – courtesy of a desmodromic top end.

83 bhp out of a single!

I wonder who they aim to sell it to?

People who want to buy road going replicas of the Ducati MX bikes.

Bustaspoke wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:04 pm I wonder who they aim to sell it to?

Singles and motard style bikes are still big in €urope. I'll be very interested to see how much better (if at all) the Ducati motor is than KTM's 690. It might even spur KTM to upgrade their 690 offering.

Taipan wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:50 pm 83 bhp out of a single!

A 660cc revving to 10.25k?

You'll need more dynamite.

Count Steer wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:55 pm

Taipan wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:50 pm 83 bhp out of a single!

A 660cc revving to 10.25k?

You'll need more dynamite.

That'll be a (Du)cat among the KTMs. Be interesting to see dyno measured bhp as they claim 2bhp more than the 690 which as we all know could be paper bhp whereas plenty of dyno'd 690s with 72-73 odd. Also the KTM is at about 8k ish where as Ducati say it revs to 10.2k which is impressive if it doesn't explode.

I love singles and only KTM were really pushing the boat out with them so good that someone else is investing in them.

As for 80bhp there's a bunch of racing 690s been punting that out since when I bought mine back in 2015 so don't find that particularly impressive unless the Ducatis explode less

It's a mps of about 23ms whereas the 690 24ish at 8.5k so its actually conservative and plenty in reserve for racing.

Ducati do have the magic of Desmodromic valve actuation to keep valves under control at stratospheric revs, but to be honest the power curve on my 690 R plateaus after 7k, so you're actually wasting your time revving it much past that. Change up and use the fat part of the power/torque curves.

The Supermono from 93 was a 550 desmo, which allegedly put out around 75 hp at 10,000 rpm.

[And that was available as a road bike]... EDIT double-checked my memory and whilst... someone I knew had one... I think he must have converted it himself for the road!

Some people I knew had several!

porter_jamie wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:37 pm Some people I knew had several!

That's just greedy.

The Spin Doctor wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:35 pm The Supermono from 93 was a 550 desmo, which allegedly put out around 75 hp at 10,000 rpm.

And that was available as a road bike... someone I knew had one.

My mate Brian raced one.

It was fast when it worked. It was basically a V-twin with a piston removed and a balancer weight put on the rear con-rod.

He sold it in the 90's for £13k... it was sold again a few years back for over £30k!

I don't think it was ever sold as a road bike?

You might be thinking of the Bimota BB1

Deffo a Ducati. We all drooled over it. I guess he must have road-registered it himself.

The Spin Doctor wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:35 pm The Supermono from 93 was a 550 desmo, which allegedly put out around 75 hp at 10,000 rpm.

[And that was available as a road bike]... EDIT double-checked my memory and whilst... someone I knew had one... I think he must have converted it himself for the road!

Valves ain't the problem it's the bottom end. The v2 panis rev higher with similar sized valves.

Chris cosentino has made a custom mono with a Ducati cylinder head and a ffe chassis. It's pretty cool.
https://instagram.com/cosentinoengineer ... BiNWFlZA==

Potter wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:08 am Making it high end won't make financial sense because this isn't the 90's so there isn't enough people to buy them, so the accountants will make them put budget suspension on it, budget generic parts, and punt it out at a price that still doesn't really make sense to anyone when you can get a KTM much cheaper.

Unless they follow KTM's lead and make 2 levels of spec; a base model and an 'R' (or probably SP in Ducati-speak) model which is significantly higher-priced.

porter_jamie wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:04 am Chris cosentino has made a custom mono with a Ducati cylinder head and a ffe chassis. It's pretty cool.
https://instagram.com/cosentinoengineer ... BiNWFlZA==

That's some serious engineering porn... The blog seems to terminate in 2020, is there a continuation anywhere?

Potter wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:50 pm I think it's a given that they'll do an SP version, but that will be twice the price of the KTM/GasGas is and I'll be a monkeys uncle if it's twice as light and twice as good.

Sadly I feel like Ducati has lost it's sheen for me, you either pay £50k+ for something special, or you take a fairly run of the mill looking offering that's only as good but twice the price as anything the Japanese have made, ITMS.

You're clearly not drinking the Ducati Kool-Aid... Don't you realise that the magic pixie dust associated with the Ducati brand means that all of their products are unconditionally desirable, irrespective of price?

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