What tyre and wheel combo...?
Cos that is my actual area of expertise...
What tyre and wheel combo...?
Bontrager line 30 carbon and either a Hillbilly or today was an MM. I can get the standard Bontrager xr5 on with fingers, but can I buggery get the other fitted.
You NEED to bin the Bonty rim strips...weeksy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:58 pm Bontrager line 30 carbon and either a Hillbilly or today was an MM. I can get the standard Bontrager xr5 on with fingers, but can I buggery get the other fitted.
Wheel has quite a thick rim strip for tubeless from factory which I think kinda stops it going in the channel to help. Along with that they're quite deep dish rims too, which again I think doesn't help.
I've snapped 4 levers in the last 24 hours
Ive not snapped a lever in 15 years until yesterday
Done. Removed and taped.mboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:13 pmYou NEED to bin the Bonty rim strips...weeksy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:58 pm Bontrager line 30 carbon and either a Hillbilly or today was an MM. I can get the standard Bontrager xr5 on with fingers, but can I buggery get the other fitted.
Wheel has quite a thick rim strip for tubeless from factory which I think kinda stops it going in the channel to help. Along with that they're quite deep dish rims too, which again I think doesn't help.
I've snapped 4 levers in the last 24 hours
Ive not snapped a lever in 15 years until yesterday
This is no word of a lie, and I can't believe how often I have to tell shop owners and mechanics this either... But Bontrager tyres aren't made to the same tubeless standard as everyone else uses, so they put those rim strips in their own rims (I knew the answer you would give me before asking the question, but wanted to be sure) to make their own tyres work ok in a tubeless setup on their rims (which do work fine in any tubeless setup, but you have to ditch the plastic rim strip)...
Ditch the strips... Put a layer or two of conventional tubeless tape on (probably 32-34mm wide if your rims are 30mm internal), pop the valve in, fit the tyre (you will be amazed how easily even a super gravity Mary will go on now!), chuck some sealant in and inflate... Then curse at Trek/Bontrager for being such a ****ing PITA that have to do things differently to everyone else!
Anything else you'd like my help with...? Whilst I'm on the clock so to speak...
With this weekend coming up for the lad and a race at Windhill, arguably the MM is the best tyre we have for him on his front choices, depending on which bike he picks to race on. His Trek Session has an MM and a G6 as fronts, his 141 has a MM and an Assegai, so i've left him with that for this weekend then i'll steal it afterwards.
I wish I really knew what that meant - but I am sitting , nodding my head, so I look like I domboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:22 pm @Mr Moofo progression from the linkage is FAR more preferable than creating progression in the shock. Geometron G1 is designed with approx 33% progression for instance, meaning it can run a coil shock natively for best results. Most mainstream bikes have less than 20% progression these days, but to be fair, that is still a lot better than where we were 20yrs ago where many full suspension bikes had a regressive suspension curve to help deal with the teeny tiny air shocks that they mostly used to run back then.
@mboy re the comment about Trek above - the bike shop that I bought my Trek from (and I am still having a hard time thinking I bought Trek) said that the new Bonty trees were Pirelli made. This was after a conversion about how I was going to change them. He seemed to rate them better than the old Bonty offeringsmboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:22 pm The other benefit to getting rid of volume spacers/tokens and running less sag, is you're not giving away all your ride height, your fork is staying further up in the travel, precisely where you want it to be. I want to give away the absolute minimum of available travel in negative travel (without it topping out harshly), I have paid for my 160mm of travel, I want to bloody use as much of it as possible, not give 60mm of it away in sag as many people do...
Privateer have charts on their Website with it all. Whether or not you/we/someone can translate that, i don't know...Mr Moofo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:12 amI wish I really knew what that meant - but I am sitting , nodding my head, so I look like I domboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:22 pm @Mr Moofo progression from the linkage is FAR more preferable than creating progression in the shock. Geometron G1 is designed with approx 33% progression for instance, meaning it can run a coil shock natively for best results. Most mainstream bikes have less than 20% progression these days, but to be fair, that is still a lot better than where we were 20yrs ago where many full suspension bikes had a regressive suspension curve to help deal with the teeny tiny air shocks that they mostly used to run back then.
How do you know how much progressivity you havemboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:22 pm The other benefit to getting rid of volume spacers/tokens and running less sag, is you're not giving away all your ride height, your fork is staying further up in the travel, precisely where you want it to be. I want to give away the absolute minimum of available travel in negative travel (without it topping out harshly), I have paid for my 160mm of travel, I want to bloody use as much of it as possible, not give 60mm of it away in sag as many people do...
True - they do have it.weeksy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:24 am
Privateer have charts on their Website with it all. Whether or not you/we/someone can translate that, i don't know...
I read a lot of this stuff recently on PB Endruo tests, they have all the discussions about the curves, the pedal kickback, the chainstay lengths, the regressive/progressive nature/figures... No idea
You're not alone... I also don't believe these things 'matter' to you or I, or your average MTBer. I think you either like a MTB when you get on it or not, you either like how it 'feels' in the car-park test, or you don't. The suspension kinematics doesn't change that and i don't believe that despite many people letting us know how they can tell anything and everything about it on PB comments, that any/many of them canMr Moofo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:54 amTrue - they do have it.weeksy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:24 am
Privateer have charts on their Website with it all. Whether or not you/we/someone can translate that, i don't know...
I read a lot of this stuff recently on PB Endruo tests, they have all the discussions about the curves, the pedal kickback, the chainstay lengths, the regressive/progressive nature/figures... No idea
And I still don't know what that means in the real world
I'm too involved professionally to comment with personal opinions, but let me put this point across...Mr Moofo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:12 am @mboy re the comment about Trek above - the bike shop that I bought my Trek from (and I am still having a hard time thinking I bought Trek) said that the new Bonty trees were Pirelli made. This was after a conversion about how I was going to change them. He seemed to rate them better than the old Bonty offerings