2023 BSA Gold Star- my mini-review

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2023 BSA Gold Star- my mini-review

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Not sure if anyone else has posted on these yet, but even if they have, I thought I'd write a few words on it as today I spent an hour on this

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For anyone who doesn’t already know, it’s the (new) BSA Gold Star, a 650cc single manufactured by Mahindra, the Indian conglomerate that bought the BSA name a few years back

As Bloor did with Triumph, they’ve (understandably) played heavily on the original 50s/60s BSA bikes heritage, with what I think is a good styling job, mimicking the shape and looks of the old air-cooled BSA single motor, albeit it’s more B31 style than DBD34 IMO, but I think they’ve done an a decent job in that respect.
It’s liquid-cooled, but at a glance, you’d take it as air-cooled, and the way the cases look, you’d think it was a pushrod engine too, but of course it’s not.

The styling job is fairly thorough, they’ve mimicked Smiths chronometric clocks that the original Gold Star (and countless other brit bikes of that era) had and even chucked the warning lights in a little Miller/Lucas ammeter size display in the headlight, which is pretty neat I reckon,
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And they've also hidden the cat/silencer under the engine to allow them to give it a 60s burgess-style "silencer"
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So, what does it ride like?
I arrived at the dealer on my Tuono, so was expecting something very different, and of course, it is, but although it is I think built down to a price, I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed my time on it more than I did on the two Enfield Interceptors that I rode, which I guess is probably what most people considering a purchase would compare it to – yep, the Interceptor is a twin, but it’s the same cc and similar sort of power and price- it wouldn’t be fair to compare the BSA to an Enfield single I think.

Positives:
  • Engine
- it’s a big single, but surprisingly manageable- You can wind it on from 2k ( or even a bit less) in top and it just builds speed without shaking your teeth out or needing you to change down- It has a decent amount of mid-range ( more than the Enfield I reckon), and fairly easily gets to 90 on the speedo- I’m sure there’s a bit more to come, but more importantly, it would comfortably cruise at an indicated 80 if you wish, which is just about 5k rpm in top ( 5th)- it stops dead at 7k on the tacho.
  • Brakes:-
Decent – lots of feel and more than up to the performance, albeit I thought the rear brake pedal was in a bit of a funny position for me- not sure if it was just this particular bike, but the pedal felt too high and a bit intrusive if I was riding flat-footed.
  • Finish:
- Pretty good IMO. Yup, there are bit’s here and there that really show it’s price-point, but overall it’s pretty good for what it is I reckon, and significantly better than the current Enfields ( the dealer I borrowed it from is also an Enfield dealer and had what must be the absolute full range of them there- I was really surprised at how many different models there now are in the Enfield line-up from when I was last there a couple of years ago).
  • The feeling of weight
: I gather it’s over 200kg, but it really didn’t feel like that to me, very quick steering and not at all heavy feeling on the move, possibly helped by the low seat height I guess

Negatives:
  • Suspension:
Whilst the front, although pretty ( well, too IMO) soft felt reasonably well damped, the rear was rubbish, it was too softly sprung for me, but worse than that, very (very) underdamped. Was OK bimbling along looking at the scenery, but when I overtook and stretched its legs a bit, although dead stable and secure feeling in a straight line, in the twisties ( © The Missenden Flyer ;) ) it really was pretty poor, sort of pogo-ed and caused me to back off a bit- I really don’t understand why it has to be like this, it really wouldn't add that much to the price to put some properly functional suspension on it, but it's something that most "budget" sort of bikes seem to suffer from to a greater or lesser extent.
  • View from LHS:
Although I think it looks pretty good from the RHS (especially the Heritage model), it looks clumpy and just plain pig ugly from the kerbside
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- the nasty cheap looking little indicators also let it down a bit I think
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Overall, I was quite pleasantly surprised, and it was better than I expected it to be. I’m really not a fan of noisy bikes but it’s far (far) too quiet as standard, although that is apparently easily rectified, and if you’re a born-again-er, or just like the looks and fancy something for weekend bimbles out on a sunny day, I don’t reckon you’d be disappointed, and with a few ££ spent on better suspension, and a little bit more styling ( some lower bars and nicer quality wheel spindles and indicators etc for me). it would be loads better.

I didn’t buy one, but if I did, this would be the colour option for me- the " Heritage, which has the chrome guards and polished/ chrome engine cases
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And finally, I just couldn’t resist stopping for a pic outside this place on “ mine”, seemed appropriate…. :D
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I don't get it, are there enough hipsters, old folk and born againers to justify bring these bikes to the UK market ?
And when will they make a call on the scrambler?
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MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:12 pm I don't get it, are there enough hipsters, old folk and born againers to justify bring these bikes to the UK market ?
And when will they make a call on the scrambler?
I guess there must be-as I mentioned above, the Enfield range now is pretty big and most of those look to be aimed at the types you mention.
But as for the BSAs, apparently they are made (or at least assembled) in Birmingham UK....
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Nice read @Tricky , seems the futures full of nostalgia. 🙂👍
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It certainly manages to carry a fair bit of styling cues from the original Goldies, but it's all way too sanitised and inoffensive to really recapture the essence of the old BSAs. I'm not asking for oil leaks and chronic unreliability, just that the engine casings are a more accurate facsimile of the originals.

I do wonder who the target market is - I started my biking career in the 60s, I'm 73 now and I had zero interest in old British Iron when I started out, so by that reckoning this bike (and those like it) are targetted at 80 year olds and above. That's a vanishingly small demographic.

My nostalgic impulses (such as they are) are centred around the 70s, 80s and 90s, not the 50s.
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:20 pm
I do wonder who the target market is - I started my biking career in the 60s, I'm 73 now and I had zero interest in old British Iron when I started out, so by that reckoning this bike (and those like it) are targetted at 80 year olds and above. That's a vanishingly small demographic.
Probably aimed at people who think it was a 'golden age' but didn't have to live through it. :lol:

(In some ways I suppose the post-war 20-30 year period was...but probably that wasn't down to British bikes :D ).

PS Tricky mentions the price point but not the price. Apparently they're £5900-6300.
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Imo, they're bikes to add to your collection, definitely not for single bike ownership.

Its nice to have a few different flower's in the garden. 👍
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I think it looks lovely, but a bit 'neutered' compared to the original types I've seen (IoM generally!!)

Do you think they are more popular because people can't ride the roads like we all did the last 20-30-40 years? (Condition of the roads, camera, in car video reporting etc). It looks far more genteel than the sorts of bikes I always wanted to hurl around the roads (and eventually did!) but I doubt there are that many places now to do what I used to do over there?!
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My Dad tested one a few months back, he waited Oct till about May I think for a test. He liked it but not enough to swap his Fazer for.

I think they appeal to some younger people too, as I've seen youtube with 20 year olds on RE, Mutts etc. And they are right up Freddie Dobb's channel, he's just toured Wales on a 350 Classic.

Must admit I quite like the RE Hunter 350, in a never gonna happen 2nd bike for pottering about on/use for work.

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Tricky's review popped up when I was googling!

The Highland Green (like the one Tricky rode), is on sale for a £4999, which is a proper bargain imho.
I'm seriously tempted to go take a look, a local dealer has just started selling BSAs.

The top spec bike is £5,999. For me the main difference is that left hand side engine case, as Trick pointed out, it's not very pretty. On the full chrome bike it looks more metallic and a little bit prettier, £1k prettier, I'm not sure... until I go have a look.
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Ta for the bump KFB,I missed this first time around.

A good read Tricky. Not a bike for me,but it's all good info. :thumbup:
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Thanks for posting,that's the first review I've seen,not that I've been seeking out reviews.I've seen a couple of them in 'real life' & they look alright but,for me the massive radiator spoils the look,pity that they couldn't have brought a air cooled bike to market.
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Wow, they're pretty nice in real life, can't believe you get that much bike for the money.

I pick mine up next Saturday.
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That's how you do it! No fucking about get in there and slap your money down. Nice.
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How's it stand against the mighty Enfield twins 47 bhp ??
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Dodgy69 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:22 pm How's it stand against the mighty Enfield twins 47 bhp ??
It's 45bhp, but a few torques more than the RE.
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Tbh..it's a good enough number for our roads. 👍
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I like that 8-)
45bhp will get you comfortably over the NSL what more do you need
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Apparently these are the official model/colours for the 2024 Gold Star Scambler, on display at Motorcycle Live.

I do really like the Victor Special paintjob.
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Colours look nice, yellow one particularly.

The wing on the left hand side of the tank needs to come off the back of the A.