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On the news this morning, getting more common. What they don't mention is, what brands are at fault, all of them or just the cheapo's. Do expensive brand bike's use cheapo batteries. ?

My wife has a Halfords ebike. About £800 2/3 years ago ( cheapo ). We charge it in the garage with my 2 motorbikes and other stuff. Never been a problem, but I don't like leaving it charging all night.

With the popularity of E - personal transport increasing, do we have something else to worry about, those who've joined the party that is.

Dodgy69 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:46 am On the news this morning, getting more common.

Not convinced it really is in truth. I think potentially they've sold more and sold cheaper crap. So it's more common purely because there's more about.

Where I work, E-bikes have been banned due to fire risks.

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:55 am Where I work, E-bikes have been banned due to fire risks.

Based upon what ?

Total Tesla Fires as of 7/27/2023: 204 confirmed cases | Fatalities Involving a Tesla Car Fire Count: 71

Are Teslas banned too ?

I don’t believe there’s a high risk from the likes of bosch etc, most of the reports I’ve read have been about cheapo conversion kits off Ali express with cheap batteries that may not have protections built in

If they don't claim compliance with UN83.3 and IEC 62133 at the least don't touch em.
And even then I'd take such things with a large pinch of salt if using one of these shit Chinese website, Ali, temu etc etc.

Most compliance claims are false, hence being banned at work.

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:06 pm Most compliance claims are false, hence being banned at work.

It depends where your work as well, it would be justified in an explosive factory but not an office.
Phones have been known to catch fire, are they banned too?

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:21 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:06 pm Most compliance claims are false, hence being banned at work.

It depends where your work as well, it would be justified in an explosive factory but not an office.
Phones have been known to catch fire, are they banned too?

A fire is a fire, it's justified anywhere where they don't want a fire.

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:28 pm

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:21 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:06 pm Most compliance claims are false, hence being banned at work.

It depends where your work as well, it would be justified in an explosive factory but not an office.
Phones have been known to catch fire, are they banned too?

A fire is a fire, it's justified anywhere where they don't want a fire.

What part of my question did that answer?
Are other rechargeable devices banned as well, if not what is the difference?

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:31 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:28 pm

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:21 pm

It depends where your work as well, it would be justified in an explosive factory but not an office.
Phones have been known to catch fire, are they banned too?

A fire is a fire, it's justified anywhere where they don't want a fire.

What part of my question did that answer?
Are other rechargeable devices banned as well, if not what is the difference?

The risk of fire.

Even indoor BBQs are banned.

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 pm

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:31 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:28 pm

A fire is a fire, it's justified anywhere where they don't want a fire.

What part of my question did that answer?
Are other rechargeable devices banned as well, if not what is the difference?

The risk of fire.

Even indoor BBQs are banned.

If you aren't going to answer I can only assume there's no rational reason behind the rule and just someone doesn't like e-bikes.

I wouldn't let anyone store a Chinese ebike in my house. I won't have Chinese phone chargers either, etc etc. A Bosch or Yamaha or whatever would be fine I'm sure.

I'm guessing phones are on your desk right in front of you when they start to go up and are dealt with sharpish, whereas scoots and bikes are left in a storage area or garage unattended and likely to be quite far along before they are noticed.

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 pm

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:31 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:28 pm

A fire is a fire, it's justified anywhere where they don't want a fire.

What part of my question did that answer?
Are other rechargeable devices banned as well, if not what is the difference?

The risk of fire.

Even indoor BBQs are banned.

What workplace allows indoor barbeques, why would you be using a barbeque at work if you don't work in catering?

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:44 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 pm

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:31 pm
What part of my question did that answer?
Are other rechargeable devices banned as well, if not what is the difference?

The risk of fire.

Even indoor BBQs are banned.

If you aren't going to answer I can only assume there's no rational reason behind the rule and just someone doesn't like e-bikes.

I did answer.

Not wanting a fire at work is entirely rational.

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:42 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 pm

Mussels wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:31 pm
What part of my question did that answer?
Are other rechargeable devices banned as well, if not what is the difference?

The risk of fire.

Even indoor BBQs are banned.

What workplace allows indoor barbeques, why would you be using a barbeque at work if you don't work in catering?

We have BBQs at work in the summer, but we were told that under sealth and hafety to never bring it indoors.

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:48 pm

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:42 pm

Ant wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 pm

The risk of fire.

Even indoor BBQs are banned.

What workplace allows indoor barbeques, why would you be using a barbeque at work if you don't work in catering?

We have BBQs at work in the summer, but we were told that under sealth and hafety to never bring it indoors.

You had to be told not to bring a BBQ indoors ?

Is there much a real difference between a gas barbecue and a gas hob? If you can have the latter indoors then why not the former? Smoke detectors might be a problem I suppose.

cheb wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:08 pm Is there much a real difference between a gas barbecue and a gas hob?

probably not, hence why we don't have Hobs in work either