Should the UK grow up and seriously restrict alcohol use/ownership

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Ban it?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:28 am

Ban it outright
1
8%
Ban it for emotional people
0
No votes
Ban it for low IQs
2
15%
Ban it for people that lack the capacity to only have one
1
8%
Keep the same insane drug laws that allow alcohol use
9
69%
 
Total votes: 13

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Re: Should the UK grow up and seriously restrict alcohol use/ownership

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Scotland and Northern Ireland were the UK constituent countries with the highest alcohol-specific death rates in 2021, with 22.4 and 19.3 deaths per 100,000 persons, respectively. England and Wales continue to have lower rates of alcohol-specific deaths, with 13.9 and 15.0 deaths per 100,000 persons, respectively.

France:
Alcohol-attributable mortality ... In 2014, the age-standardized rates, in deaths per 100,000, were 34.7 among men and 9.9 among women.
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Drunk drivers accounted for 15% of road deaths. Final figures for 2020 released by the Department for Transport (DfT)

In France, it is estimated that alcohol-related road deaths represent 32% of all road deaths
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I forgot the important one, sorry.

In 2017 there were 10,874 people killed in alcohol-impaired- driving crashes, an average of 1 alcohol-impaired-driving fatality every 48 minutes. These alcohol- impaired-driving fatalities accounted for 29 percent of all motor vehicle traffic fatalities in the United States in 2017.
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Ban everything, that way we can all be good little robots and just work and pay taxes, fuck being human, it's too dangerous man!
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I've two close friends who died way before their time, booze was a big part of why that happened. Neither of them had low IQ, arguably both had depression. I'm pretty sure without freely available booze they'd have found some other way to off themselves.

I quite like a glass of wine and it certainly brightens up a Friday.
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Greenman wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:21 am Ban everything, that way we can all be good little robots and just work and pay taxes, fuck being human, it's too dangerous man!
Do you still see yourself as 'young'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65107405

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Horse wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:00 am
Greenman wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:21 am Ban everything, that way we can all be good little robots and just work and pay taxes, fuck being human, it's too dangerous man!
Do you still see yourself as 'young'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65107405

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Makes me laugh, next they will start to try and ban tourists in the coffeeshops, how long have they been trying to do that for, 30 years?

The dutch are just as bad. I have been to a few darts tournaments in Rotterdam and the football hooligans are more mental than here in the uk. I remember getting the train to the Ahoy stadium and it rocking left and right on the tracks as almost 100% of the train was chanting football songs and going pretty mental.

There was also a massive fight there that year in the stadium with chairs being thrown the lot, that was the last time for me, it was just to 'football' for my liking, i hate football with a passion.

I think they need to look in the mirror before pointing the finger at us brits.
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DefTrap wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:33 am I've two close friends who died way before their time, booze was a big part of why that happened. Neither of them had low IQ, arguably both had depression. I'm pretty sure without freely available booze they'd have found some other way to off themselves.

I quite like a glass of wine and it certainly brightens up a Friday.
Perhaps we should ban depression ?
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come on people.... please.
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:57 am I’m serious, anywhere in the world alcohol kills more people and causes way more misery than guns.

Why pick on this thread and not the gun one?
I could've picked either, but your poll options were that fucking ridiculous that this seemed the best place to start.

I mean, you could have made a bit of an effort instead of starting off with a complete bell-end of a set of options
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:57 am I’m serious, anywhere in the world alcohol kills more people and causes way more misery than guns.

Why pick on this thread and not the gun one?
Probably because a can of Red Stripe hasn't walked into yet another school in the US and killed 6 people?
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Banning it has been tried.
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:04 am
Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:01 am
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:57 am I’m serious, anywhere in the world alcohol kills more people and causes way more misery than guns.

Why pick on this thread and not the gun one?
Probably because a can of Red Stripe has walked into yet another school in the US and killed 6 people?
How many guns walk into schools without humans as well?
How many cans of Red Stripe , accompanied by a human, have killed people in a school massacre?
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:03 am
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:58 am
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:57 am I’m serious, anywhere in the world alcohol kills more people and causes way more misery than guns.

Why pick on this thread and not the gun one?
I could've picked either, but your poll options were that fucking ridiculous that this seemed the best place to start.

I mean, you could have made a bit of an effort instead of starting off with a complete bell-end of a set of options
It’s humour to make a point.
Hysterical. However it fucked up any chance of a sensible debate.. But you don't seem interested in a debate anyway as you've very very blinkered on the subject and won't go for anything other than "anyone who drinks is an idiot"... So really what's to debate ? you've already made your mind up.
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:57 am I’m serious, anywhere in the world alcohol kills more people and causes way more misery than guns.
Every time someone tries to buy a drink, the barman should give them a gun instead.
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How the fuck am I supposed to put up with my wife without the booze?
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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:09 am How the fuck am I supposed to put up with my wife without the booze?
Same way as the rest of us.
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JackyJoll wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:10 am
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:09 am How the fuck am I supposed to put up with my wife without the booze?
Same way as the rest of us.
You have to put up with his wife ?
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:14 am
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:06 am
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:03 am

It’s humour to make a point.
Hysterical. However it fucked up any chance of a sensible debate.. But you don't seem interested in a debate anyway as you've very very blinkered on the subject and won't go for anything other than "anyone who drinks is an idiot"... So really what's to debate ? you've already made your mind up.
Again, read the title of the other thread and tell me the bloke that started it hasn’t already made his mind up, the ridiculous thread title was pointed out twice by different people.

There was no debate to be had in that thread.
Oh, 2 wrongs make a right... nice...
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Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:16 am
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:14 am
Potter wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:14 am

Again, read the title of the other thread and tell me the bloke that started it hasn’t already made his mind up, the ridiculous thread title was pointed out twice by different people.

There was no debate to be had in that thread.
Oh, 2 wrongs make a right... nice...
If one wrong doesn’t get any attention, then clearly two does.
3's a charm though :)