World's Strongest Man at Donington.

[Yorick]

Eddie Hall has become a bit of a YouTube celeb and is quite amicable.
I saw the vid where he bought his dad his dream bike, a Katana and himself a Busa.

Last night I saw of this video and cringed a bit.
But when I watched it, it wasn't too bad. Every first time trackdayer gets excited. He spouted a bit of bull* but was just excited.

A Busa with 24 stone on board is not perfect trackday stuff.

But after just 3 sessions he'd dropped about 20 seconds to 2m 4 s.

I've instructed many guys and around 2 mins is a good pace.
If he'd had a full day he'd have gone under 2 mins which is good

[Bigjawa]

He'll throw that Busa around like a 125. There was another massive bloke who used to do drag racing, I think he was called Cannon.

[Yorick]

He'll throw that Busa around like a 125. There was another massive bloke who used to do drag racing, I think he was called Cannon.

Doesn't matter how strong he is, the Busa is a shite track bike.
I've seen so many owners being disappointed.

[wull]

[Yorick]

He'll throw that Busa around like a 125. There was another massive bloke who used to do drag racing, I think he was called Cannon.

Yeah. I saw Cannon at Peel Sprint. He's from Bradford.

[westers151]

Ex MotoGP rider and WSB champion makes any bike go fast around a track - Shocker

[wull]

Ex MotoGP rider and WSB champion makes any bike go fast around a track - Shocker

And? It’s still relevant to what that eejit above is trying to spout.

[westers151]

It's not relevant at all. He'd make any bike look good on a track, but that does not make them good track bikes for us mere mortals, yourself included.

Ask yourself this, how often have you heard any decent calibre rider recommend you get a Hyabusa as a track day bike? (actually, I'll answer that for you - none; they'll probably say it's a great, fast, grand tourer on the road, but not one they'd put in their top 10 (or 20) track day bike list).

[wull]

That’s not what the point is, it’s the bike we’re talking about.

And to make clear I’d never have one in a million years and I myself wouldn’t rate it as a track bike, obviously but the fact of the matter is we’re talking about the bike, not the riders and it can be capable in the right hands. Nuff said

[westers151]

That’s not what the point is, it’s the bike we’re talking about.

And to make clear I’d never have one in a million years and I myself wouldn’t rate it as a track bike, obviously but the fact of the matter is we’re talking about the bike, not the riders and it can be capable in the right hands. Nuff said

No, we're talking about it being a good track bike for the majority of people, which it isn't. But you're being a bit of a tool about this so I'll leave you to it.

[wull]

That’s not what the point is, it’s the bike we’re talking about.

And to make clear I’d never have one in a million years and I myself wouldn’t rate it as a track bike, obviously but the fact of the matter is we’re talking about the bike, not the riders and it can be capable in the right hands. Nuff said

No, we're talking about it being a good track bike for the majority of people, which it isn't. But you're being a bit of a tool about this so I'll leave you to it.

As much of a tool as you and that other tool.

No he says it’s a shite track bike, I merely stuck a video up showing that it can still be handy in the right hands, you took it upon yourself to be a bellend yourself.

Fact is Yorick is the biggest tool on here, saying it was “cringe” because someone was excited about a track day, and then proceeds to slate the Busa, everyone can’t be god like him on a bike ffs

[Scud]

Not really relevant but back in the 80s when Geoff Capes was the worlds strongest man he lived next door but one to us. Was in the same class as his daughter at primary school, she beat me up once

[Mr. Dazzle]

Geoff Capes was the worlds strongest man he lived next door but one to us. Was in the same class as his daughter at primary school,

Got held back did he?

[Bigjawa]

That’s not what the point is, it’s the bike we’re talking about.

And to make clear I’d never have one in a million years and I myself wouldn’t rate it as a track bike, obviously but the fact of the matter is we’re talking about the bike, not the riders and it can be capable in the right hands. Nuff said

No, we're talking about it being a good track bike for the majority of people, which it isn't. But you're being a bit of a tool about this so I'll leave you to it.

He ain't gonna fit on a Gixer 1k though, I can barely fit on one and I'm a twig compared to him, maybe that's why he rides one?

[MyLittleStudPony]

I enjoy his videos of PAWG'y women falling over in gyms.

I love how he's dead camp and funny too.

[westers151]

He ain't gonna fit on a Gixer 1k though, I can barely fit on one and I'm a twig compared to him, maybe that's why he rides one?

On that criteria, any bike that you can fit on makes a good track bike if all you want to do is ride around a track with no real ambitions of trying to develop and go faster. However, if you want to develop and go faster, there comes a point when the bike is either holding you back, or not the best thing available to help you get better.

As has been pointed out, a Hayabusa can be made to go around a track at a reasonable pace, but this is by someone who is in the top 5% of bike racers. He's already learnt how to go fast, so the 'busa will be holding him back, and certainly not helping him to develop. He'll also be using all his skills to compensate for the limitations of the bike on track.

There comes a point when you need to get a bike that is a much better proposition as a track based bike, something who's limitations will be way beyond your current skills and as such allows you to develop before having to worry about reaching and riding around said limitations.

Whether you can fit on the bike is a different matter entirely, but if your criteria for a good track bike is "can I fit on it", that's fair enough, but as you get faster, you'll reach the limitations and realise it's not helping you.

[Jody]

I watched this a few days ago and enjoyed.

Can't help but think that he should be on a 1290 Superduke !

[wull]

He ain't gonna fit on a Gixer 1k though, I can barely fit on one and I'm a twig compared to him, maybe that's why he rides one?

On that criteria, any bike that you can fit on makes a good track bike if all you want to do is ride around a track with no real ambitions of trying to develop and go faster. However, if you want to develop and go faster, there comes a point when the bike is either holding you back, or not the best thing available to help you get better.

As has been pointed out, a Hayabusa can be made to go around a track at a reasonable pace, but this is by someone who is in the top 5% of bike racers. He's already learnt how to go fast, so the 'busa will be holding him back, and certainly not helping him to develop. He'll also be using all his skills to compensate for the limitations of the bike on track.

There comes a point when you need to get a bike that is a much better proposition as a track based bike, something who's limitations will be way beyond your current skills and as such allows you to develop before having to worry about reaching and riding around said limitations.

Whether you can fit on the bike is a different matter entirely, but if your criteria for a good track bike is "can I fit on it", that's fair enough, but as you get faster, you'll reach the limitations and realise it's not helping you.

[Taipan]

I know nothing about track days or Eddie Hall come to that but I enjoyed the video and Eddie's honesty.

[Yorick]

I know nothing about track days or Eddie Hall come to that but I enjoyed the video and Eddie's honesty.

I've seen (and helped) dozens of folk on their first track day.
They're all like kids on Xmas day