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Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:40 pm**

I need a new hammer drill and need some advice. I had a Wickes one for about 25 years, before it bust. I bought a nice looking Bosch one over here and lasted about 2 years. I always thought that Bosch stuff was quality, but seems it's all made in far away cheapo countries.

So what's good nowadays up to about £125. I can get it posted if need be as shops here don't stock everything.

TIA

This my probable source..

https://www.leroymerlin.es/v3/search/se ... =price-asc

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:53 pm**

Li-ion battery powered drills will do the job just about as well these days, might be worth looking at those too.

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:02 pm**

cheb wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:53 pm Li-ion battery powered drills will do the job just about as well these days, might be worth looking at those too.

I've got a Makita 18v jobby, but just need something a bit meatier sometimes

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:17 pm**

£125 will get you a Makita 3.3kg SDS mains powered drill. That's meaty.

(I went Makita mains powered for the big hammery jobs. The faff of using an extension lead isn't a problem the few times it's needed).

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:17 pm**

Yorick wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:02 pm
I've got a Makita 18v jobby, but just need something a bit meatier sometimes

And this is the trouble - I think most of us need a big ol' SDS hammer drill 'sometimes'. IMO 'sometimes' isn't enough to warrant spending out on a beefy SDS battery drill when and SDS corded drill is waaaay cheaper.

So - I've got a cheaper Bosch SDS corded and it is fine, more of a faff but for the '# of times I need it it's no great bother.

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:33 pm**

The SDS mains powered is definitely my choice for heavy duty stuff. Using a big cutting tool without a clutch is a dodgy prospect.

I've an Erbauer,it wasn't expensive,but does the job.

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:33 pm**

Whatever you get, get a drill with an SDS Plus chuck. The hammer action on those is far better than an ordinary 'chuck key chuck'. You should be able to get one with 3 modes, rotary, hammer and chisel (hammer with roto-stop) in your price range. I'm a fan of Hikoki (Hitachi as was), but any one of Makita, Hikoki, De Walt and Metabo are good. Metabo is probably the best of that bunch, but also the most spendy.

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:53 pm**

DefTrap wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:17 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:02 pm
I've got a Makita 18v jobby, but just need something a bit meatier sometimes
And this is the trouble - I think most of us need a big ol' SDS hammer drill 'sometimes'. IMO 'sometimes' isn't enough to warrant spending out on a beefy SDS battery drill when and SDS corded drill is waaaay cheaper.

So - I've got a cheaper Bosch SDS corded and it is fine, more of a faff but for the '# of times I need it it's no great bother.

I inherited a big clumsy SDS drill when we bought the villa.
I want something in between.

Posted: **Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:58 pm**

Yorick wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:53 pm
DefTrap wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:17 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:02 pm
I've got a Makita 18v jobby, but just need something a bit meatier sometimes
And this is the trouble - I think most of us need a big ol' SDS hammer drill 'sometimes'. IMO 'sometimes' isn't enough to warrant spending out on a beefy SDS battery drill when and SDS corded drill is waaaay cheaper.

So - I've got a cheaper Bosch SDS corded and it is fine, more of a faff but for the '# of times I need it it's no great bother.
I inherited a big clumsy SDS drill when we bought the villa.
I want something in between.

My Makita is a hammer drill, with a clutch but isn't an SDS. It's just a good, beefy, hammer drill that would be OK with core drills up to a certain size. I don't think there's a lot in between 18v battery and it. It's chunky but quite manageable. (Unlike the SDS it replaced). Going mains power cuts the cost, a lot.

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:09 pm**

Makita Sds plus a Jacobs chuck for normal drilling mines 25 years old and done site work and core drilling still going strong.

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:00 pm**

Yorick wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:53 pm I inherited a big clumsy SDS drill when we bought the villa.
I want something in between.

SDS Plus takes 10mm bits, not the 3/4 or 1 inch etc

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:52 pm**

ZRX61 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:00 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:53 pm I inherited a big clumsy SDS drill when we bought the villa.
I want something in between.
SDS Plus takes 10mm bits, not the 3/4 or 1 inch etc

Yup. It takes 9.8mm bits. Just it's so big and heavy. Great for heavy jobs.
Too heavy for subtle jobs.

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Often I need to drill into volcanic rock like this wall light I just tried to install.
The 18v Makita barely made a scratch..

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Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:17 pm**

If I was drilling into that stuff I'd start with a really small masonry bit - about 4mm. That wil go through hard material quickly and then you follow up with the actual size drill/hole you want. A small drill bit means the drilling force is concentrated into a small area rather than being dissipated over a wider area. Then when you follow up with the larger bit it has a pilot hole to follow. You get a more accurately sized hole with less chance of the drill bit wandering.

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:20 pm**

mangocrazy wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:17 pm If I was drilling into that stuff I'd start with a really small masonry bit - about 4mm. That wil go through hard material quickly and then you follow up with the actual size drill/hole you want. A small drill bit means the drilling force is concentrated into a small area rather than being dissipated over a wider area. Then when you follow up with the larger bit it has a pilot hole to follow. You get a more accurately sized hole with less chance of the drill bit wandering.

I had 4mm drill bit. Volcanic rock is tough

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:22 pm**

Maybe the drill bit is fuckerated in the sharpness department.

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:53 pm**

Yorick wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:20 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:17 pm If I was drilling into that stuff I'd start with a really small masonry bit - about 4mm. That wil go through hard material quickly and then you follow up with the actual size drill/hole you want. A small drill bit means the drilling force is concentrated into a small area rather than being dissipated over a wider area. Then when you follow up with the larger bit it has a pilot hole to follow. You get a more accurately sized hole with less chance of the drill bit wandering.
I had 4mm drill bit. Volcanic rock is tough

Yeah, I absolutely get that. In our place in France some of the rocks that make up the (half a metre thick) walls are granite or a very close relative.

Buy lots of good quality 4mm drills!

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:55 pm**

Those kecks in the door way need gone.....

Posted: **Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:59 pm**

David wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:55 pm Those kecks in the door way need gone.....

My spare pair of work shorts

Posted: **Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:35 pm**

Well, my world famous indecision and procrastination finally came to an end yesterday

Felt brave and grabbed this when I was buying some other things.
By 'ell it's got some grunt. Went into volcanic rock like knife through butter

The keyless chuck slipped first couple of times, but my builder mate was here and showed me the knack of it.

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Posted: **Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:27 pm**

I didn't realise you could still get corded Makita stuff

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