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Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:52 am
by weeksy

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:58 am
by Greenman
weeksy wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:52 am
The dogs should be put down and the owner locked up for being a dick and not training his dogs correctly. If the dogs we're police dogs etc they should have been on leads.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:59 am
by MrLongbeard
Kicked the dogs into the next county, to be followed by their fucking clueless asshat owners

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:00 am
by Greenman
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:59 am Kicked the dogs into the next county, to be followed by their fucking clueless asshat owners
Also what he said...

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:00 am
by weeksy
Greenman wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:58 am The dogs should be put down and the owner locked up for being a dick and not training his dogs correctly.
I struggle to argue with part of that... but is it really the dogs fault as such ? I get more irritated by the owners in these circumstances rather than the dogs...

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:10 am
by Greenman
weeksy wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:00 am
Greenman wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:58 am The dogs should be put down and the owner locked up for being a dick and not training his dogs correctly.
I struggle to argue with part of that... but is it really the dogs fault as such ? I get more irritated by the owners in these circumstances rather than the dogs...
Agreed.

Some people should not be allowed to have dogs if they cannot control them and have no idea how to keep them. The worst are the council chavs who have them for status symbols, they always turn out to be total pussies too hence having to have the big scary dog to protect them.

A guy up my Cricket club is a police dog trainer, he sometimes brings his german shepherds up to the club but always has them muzzled and warns others not to get too close etc as they are obviously trained to protect him and attack, never had any issues. He has told me of many other occasions when some of his colleagues have got complacent and let the dog rome around freely and they have attacked people and have to be put down which is sad as it's nothing to do with their nature and everything to do with the owner being a complete numpty.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:15 am
by dern
I'd have kicked the dogs off until I was safe and then I'd have reported the owners to the police.

I have two dogs, a lurcher and a greyhound. They are never off lead in public places and they always have muzzles on. Anyone who believes their dog is entirely predictable in every situation is just waiting for the inevitable moment that that bubble is burst regardless of previous behaviour.

That situation must have been pretty awful for the owners but they need to be responsible for the dogs they have.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:17 am
by dern
Greenman wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:10 am Some people should not be allowed to have dogs if they cannot control them and have no idea how to keep them. The worst are the council chavs who have them for status symbols, they always turn out to be total pussies too hence having to have the big scary dog to protect them.
I disagree, anyone who misunderstand the damage their dogs can do and lets them off lead is as bad. It's too easy to blame someone not 'like us'. Our dogs have been attacked by the family lab who, and I quote, "has just never done anything like that before, I don't understand". Fuckwits.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:18 am
by Greenman
dern wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:15 am I'd have kicked the dogs off until I was safe and then I'd have reported the owners to the police.

I have two dogs, a lurcher and a greyhound. They are never off lead in public places and they always have muzzles on. Anyone who believes their dog is entirely predictable in every situation is just waiting for the inevitable moment that that bubble is burst regardless of previous behaviour.

That situation must have been pretty awful for the owners but they need to be responsible for the dogs they have.
This is the issue a lot of the time, no foresight.

I can almost 100% guarantee you if that owner was asked about his dogs he would of said "they are good as gold, they never attack anyone, they love my kids" etc etc etc.

It winds me up tbh, if you can't be fucked to train the dogs and take responsibility for them just get a fucking cat!

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:20 am
by Greenman
dern wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:17 am
Greenman wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:10 am Some people should not be allowed to have dogs if they cannot control them and have no idea how to keep them. The worst are the council chavs who have them for status symbols, they always turn out to be total pussies too hence having to have the big scary dog to protect them.
I disagree, anyone who misunderstand the damage their dogs can do and lets them off lead is as bad. It's too easy to blame someone not 'like us'. Our dogs have been attacked by the family lab who, and I quote, "has just never done anything like that before, I don't understand". Fuckwits.
Of course, but i find chavs are actively training their dogs to be aggressive instead of just being an owner who is a bit delusional about their furry friend.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:22 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
It's the owners fault for not being able to control their dogs, but it should be reported to the police and the dogs put down, next person attacked could be someone not capable of defending themselves, it would be nice if the owners were sent to prison but it's not going to happen, they won't even be prevented from owning another dog, if there is a law about this it won't be enforced, personally I feel the best answer for the owners is to be locked in a cage with a hungry tiger.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:29 am
by Greenman
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:22 am It's the owners fault for not being able to control their dogs, but it should be reported to the police and the dogs put down, next person attacked could be someone not capable of defending themselves, it would be nice if the owners were sent to prison but it's not going to happen, they won't even be prevented from owning another dog, if there is a law about this it won't be enforced, personally I feel the best answer for the owners is to be locked in a cage with a hungry tiger.
Or the owner could be chopped up and fed to the dogs before they are put down for their last meal...;)

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:29 am
by DefTrap
This is one of the many reasons that my missus can't go walking, even locally, on her own - because there's so many thoughtless and careless dog owners out there who let them just run about the place making mischief.

I'm sick of it. And I'm sick of the bullshit "oh I can't stop him getting out" "he's normally really friendly" "he's only protecting me" "if you didn't run away screaming then he probably wouldn't have bitten you". I'd have kicked the dogs long and hard and reported those hivis tabarded fvckers, but then I'm big enough, strong enough, angry enough to do it.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:31 am
by MrLongbeard
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:22 am the dogs put down
Full grown dogs I'd agree, but she say's they're puppies, so remove them and give them to a responsible owner who will train them, and put the owners down instead

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:39 am
by Flux
I'm an animal lover, but if one attacked me I'd kick the cunt in the head.
My wife got bitten whilst trail running few years back (not too serious fortunately) and the owner (some posh bint) couldn't have cared less. Some folk are just not fit to have animals.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:55 am
by gremlin
Difficult one. I'm sure the owners didn't set their dogs on the bloke on purpose and talk of kicking shit out of the dogs and/or owners isn't exactly a measured response. If it's the first time the dogs have seen a bloke on a bike come careering past they may well react badly.

Be interesting to see what happened next. If they walked away without a by-your-leave, then that's unacceptable. Maybe they profusely apologised offered to pay for any damaged clothing, etc.

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:02 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
gremlin wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:55 am Difficult one. I'm sure the owners didn't set their dogs on the bloke on purpose and talk of kicking shit out of the dogs and/or owners isn't exactly a measured response. If it's the first time the dogs have seen a bloke on a bike come careering past they may well react badly.

Be interesting to see what happened next. If they walked away without a by-your-leave, then that's unacceptable. Maybe they profusely apologised offered to pay for any damaged clothing, etc.
Would that be acceptable to you if they attacked your daughter?

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:15 am
by MrLongbeard
gremlin wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:55 am talk of kicking shit out of the dogs and/or owners isn't exactly a measured response.
I was being quite restrained in my response.
As a life long asthmatic a dog just rubbing up against me will ruin my day, a swift kick often dissuades

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:16 am
by DefTrap
Flux wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:39 am I'm an animal lover, but if one attacked me I'd kick the cunt in the head.
My wife got bitten whilst trail running few years back (not too serious fortunately) and the owner (some posh bint) couldn't have cared less. Some folk are just not fit to have animals.
Ugh. I had a new neighbour, marched round with some really big dogs who were snapping and growling all over the place, to introduce herself. Explained very matter of factly that her dogs were 'protective of her' and she wouldn't be held responsible if they bit one of my kids. Scared them shitless just like that, they were afraid to go out the house. Of course there was never any situation because we stayed away from them for all sorts of reasons but what sort of person is so engrossed in themselves that they think that is anything like reasonable?

Re: Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:22 am
by Mr. Dazzle
DefTrap wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:16 am Explained very matter of factly that her dogs were 'protective of her' and she wouldn't be held responsible if they bit one of my kids.
I love people like this....they think that somehow they get to decide what they can be held responsible for just by saying it. :D

It's like when dealers say "Sold as Seen" thinking it absolves them of their legal responsibilities.