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50p, Pound here, two pound there you expect to see but my puppy pads were £16.99 for 100 on Amazon. Went to order another 100 tonight from the same seller. £21.99 :o 5p onto a sliver of paper what ill bet is old stockpiled stock :lol: Found another seller with the same pads at £16.99 so ordered six boxes. Im sure some folk are taking the piss. Wife bought chateaubriand out the freezer shop today (Yes i know but its nice) That has went up £2 in a week. Good money its the same batch as the one i bought a fortnight ago.

And while im moaning how come diesel is 20p dearer than petrol when 5p was the average before Putin started to steal some land?
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Felix wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:40 am And while im moaning how come diesel is 20p dearer than petrol when 5p was the average before Putin started to steal some land?
I think because a fair bit of refined diesel came direct from Russia, so it's now scarcer.
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Felix wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:40 am 50p, Pound here, two pound there you expect to see but my puppy pads were £16.99 for 100 on Amazon. Went to order another 100 tonight from the same seller. £21.99 :o 5p onto a sliver of paper what ill bet is old stockpiled stock :lol: Found another seller with the same pads at £16.99 so ordered six boxes. Im sure some folk are taking the piss. Wife bought chateaubriand out the freezer shop today (Yes i know but its nice) That has went up £2 in a week. Good money its the same batch as the one i bought a fortnight ago.

And while im moaning how come diesel is 20p dearer than petrol when 5p was the average before Putin started to steal some land?
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Mussels wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:47 am
Felix wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:40 am And while im moaning how come diesel is 20p dearer than petrol when 5p was the average before Putin started to steal some land?
I think because a fair bit of refined diesel came direct from Russia, so it's now scarcer.
But the fuel companies are in record profit.........
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What peeved me the other day was that fuel went from 1.57€ to 1.65€ in the space of a week. Why? How? Yes there were strikes here, but WTF hasn't it gone back down this week? Fukkers.

I'm used to diesel going up in the winter (demand is way higher, so people will take advantage), but petrol?? :angry-cussingblack:
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Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:37 am What peeved me the other day was that fuel went from 1.57€ to 1.65€ in the space of a week. Why? How? Yes there were strikes here, but WTF hasn't it gone back down this week? Fukkers.

I'm used to diesel going up in the winter (demand is way higher, so people will take advantage), but petrol?? :angry-cussingblack:
Our petrol is not to bad at £1.66. Still went up 5p but that was over a month. Just checked and diesel is £1.92 at the local Tesco. What pisses me of with them is Tesco in another town is 2p cheaper. Im quite lucky i pass on the diesel cost to the customers but i still have the camperbus and car.
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Felix wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:40 am 50p, Pound here, two pound there you expect to see but my puppy pads were £16.99 for 100 on Amazon. Went to order another 100 tonight from the same seller. £21.99 :o 5p onto a sliver of paper what ill bet is old stockpiled stock :lol: Found another seller with the same pads at £16.99 so ordered six boxes. Im sure some folk are taking the piss. Wife bought chateaubriand out the freezer shop today (Yes i know but its nice) That has went up £2 in a week. Good money its the same batch as the one i bought a fortnight ago.

And while im moaning how come diesel is 20p dearer than petrol when 5p was the average before Putin started to steal some land?
Diesel tends to be a pricier in the winter as it’s used heavily in heating oils. Plus the US is running low on diesel reserves which seems to driving the price up.

The price of oil though has dropped back to $88 but the price at the pump just seems to go up.
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When everything more than doubled in price years ago, was it called a crisis back then? Without getting all political, when Kier Starmer is shouting 'Tory cost of living crisis', was it known as a Labour cost of living crisis when everything doubled in price during their time in Government?
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Felix wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:49 am
Noggin wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:37 am What peeved me the other day was that fuel went from 1.57€ to 1.65€ in the space of a week. Why? How? Yes there were strikes here, but WTF hasn't it gone back down this week? Fukkers.

I'm used to diesel going up in the winter (demand is way higher, so people will take advantage), but petrol?? :angry-cussingblack:
Our petrol is not to bad at £1.66. Still went up 5p but that was over a month. Just checked and diesel is £1.92 at the local Tesco. What pisses me of with them is Tesco in another town is 2p cheaper. Im quite lucky i pass on the diesel cost to the customers but i still have the camperbus and car.
How is fuel priced in your neck of the woods? Over here, taxes and distances it has to ship are influential. Next town over shouldn't really affect the distance bit, but what about local taxes? Or is fuel not taxed locally (on this side of the pond it is in some locations in addition to state and federal taxation)? Or are they just taking the piss?
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Last one mostly :D

Tax is country wide. Location plays a part but not really at the scale of town to town. There's always the argument the price is baked in when they actually bought the petrol and wholesale priced are all over the place at the moment. So a garage with a high turn over will potentially have more frequent price changes.

"Name brand" fuel is generally more expensive than supermarkets but even that isn't certain these days.
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Ant wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:37 pm When everything more than doubled in price years ago, was it called a crisis back then? Without getting all political, when Kier Starmer is shouting 'Tory cost of living crisis', was it known as a Labour cost of living crisis when everything doubled in price during their time in Government?
When was that, and over what time period? Maybe I was just a wee lad, oblivious to inflation hikes, but I can't for the life of me remember a time when prices doubled?
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Felix wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:40 amAnd while im moaning how come diesel is 20p dearer than petrol when 5p was the average before Putin started to steal some land?
I think it's partly to do with the tight supply of natural gas, which is used to generate the hydrogen in refining road diesel.
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Hoonercat wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm
Ant wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:37 pm When everything more than doubled in price years ago, was it called a crisis back then? Without getting all political, when Kier Starmer is shouting 'Tory cost of living crisis', was it known as a Labour cost of living crisis when everything doubled in price during their time in Government?
When was that, and over what time period? Maybe I was just a wee lad, oblivious to inflation hikes, but I can't for the life of me remember a time when prices doubled?
Inflation in 1975 was running at over 25% pa in real terms, although the Govt stats showed it a bit less than that.

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Hoonercat wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm
Ant wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:37 pm When everything more than doubled in price years ago, was it called a crisis back then? Without getting all political, when Kier Starmer is shouting 'Tory cost of living crisis', was it known as a Labour cost of living crisis when everything doubled in price during their time in Government?
When was that, and over what time period? Maybe I was just a wee lad, oblivious to inflation hikes, but I can't for the life of me remember a time when prices doubled?
Over 13 years, the last time they were in government. Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. Between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose 133% and electricity prices rose 69% AND one of the reasons for high energy prices is EU driven are the 'Green Taxes' brought in by the last Labour government. so when Labour are bleating about how they would sort it out, why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices again? When the cost of living turns to Kier fighting the Conservatives over the use of food banks, the use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour, from 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. When Labour say the Conservatives make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, under Labour between 1997 to 2010 the gap between rich and poor got wider. These are just a few of the things which went on where many would have called it a 'Labour cost of living crisis' - so perhaps todays energy price crisis is in fact a Labour cost of living crisis after all?
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In the spirit of blaming other governments for whats happening now I blame Thatcher, innit.
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Ant wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:59 pm These are just a few of the things which went on where many would have called it a 'Labour cost of living crisis'
In the 1980s, myself and Filly at the time had up to £60k mortgage tax relief available to us.

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demographic wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:04 pm In the spirit of blaming other governments for whats happening now I blame Thatcher, innit.
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Horse wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:06 pm
Ant wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:59 pm These are just a few of the things which went on where many would have called it a 'Labour cost of living crisis'
In the 1980s, myself and Filly at the time had up to £60k mortgage tax relief available to us.

All removed by Conservative government.
You mean you couldn't dodge the tax over it?

Labour voters hearts bleed for you. It was actually abolished by Gordon Brown in 2000.
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Ant wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:59 pm Over 13 years, the last time they were in government. Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. Between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose 133% and electricity prices rose 69% AND one of the reasons for high energy prices is EU driven are the 'Green Taxes' brought in by the last Labour government. so when Labour are bleating about how they would sort it out, why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices again? When the cost of living turns to Kier fighting the Conservatives over the use of food banks, the use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour, from 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. When Labour say the Conservatives make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, under Labour between 1997 to 2010 the gap between rich and poor got wider. These are just a few of the things which went on where many would have called it a 'Labour cost of living crisis' - so perhaps todays energy price crisis is in fact a Labour cost of living crisis after all?
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mangocrazy wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:07 pm
Ant wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:59 pm Over 13 years, the last time they were in government. Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. Between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose 133% and electricity prices rose 69% AND one of the reasons for high energy prices is EU driven are the 'Green Taxes' brought in by the last Labour government. so when Labour are bleating about how they would sort it out, why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices again? When the cost of living turns to Kier fighting the Conservatives over the use of food banks, the use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour, from 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. When Labour say the Conservatives make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, under Labour between 1997 to 2010 the gap between rich and poor got wider. These are just a few of the things which went on where many would have called it a 'Labour cost of living crisis' - so perhaps todays energy price crisis is in fact a Labour cost of living crisis after all?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
That makes no sense, that's a bit like saying no one has proof that diesel is £1.90 per litre. People have been paying it, what other evidence would you need? If you were a working person paying bills and tax, you'd have known what you were paying.