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Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:16 am
by weeksy
I'd like to see more realistic bikes being released instead of 190bhp nakeds, i just don't get that, 100-130bhp, well, OK, sure... even they're a bit excessive still...But i kinda get them, but up in the 160-190-200bhp nakeds, well, i simply can't get my head around them.

So some nice fully specc'd Twin/Triple/V4s with great suspension, great electronice and 120bhp, yeah that'll do me.

THe one thing that would make me think VERY hard about my world though, a KTM 790 Supermoto, with 165kg and 690SMCR styling, but full electronic package and 110bhp, yeah, take my money right now please.

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:06 am
by Tricky
Dunno about an RC30 type thing, but I'll be surprised if we don't see another (either bigger or smaller) version of the Africa Twin- if Honda are developing another V4 than am guessing that will have to be a sportsbike to try and give them a leg up in WSB, if that is still important to them.

I reckon we'll see a V4 Ducati MultiStrada - adventure and naked bikes will be the bulk of the new models, from the mainstream manufacturers at least.
I also expect to see more in the way of electric bike options over next year or two- not currently seeing fossil/electric hybrids making it into bikes

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:04 pm
by Supermofo
Not a looker but the Tuono 660 could be fun
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/n ... ealed-spec

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Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:50 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
I'm hoping Honda decide to build this

https://www.motorcycle.com/mini-feature ... ealed.html

Could be my first new bike for 20 years

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Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:59 pm
by G.P
I'd like to see a small Africa twin - a new Transalp? I'd also like to see a lightweight sportsbike with the Africa twin motor in it - Surely they'll put that motor in another bike?
The Ltd edition 765 Daytona Triumph was disappointing as it had old 675 styling - would love to see another 765 sportsbike.

How about a 6oo twin Triumph tiger cub? - roadster or lighter trail bike?

Guzzi to build a Lemans retro in the same way Triumph have hit the bullseye with the speed twin. ANd if we're going that, Ressurect Laverda and give me an SF750 twin and a modern Jota :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:22 pm
by Skub
I don't know what I'd like to see from any of the manufacturers,they need to show me shit,then I'll wave it away like some spoilt,overindulged child. :lol:

Years ago there was loads of bikes I lusted after,but there was always other demands on the budget. Ironically now I could pick and choose more easily,there is nothing tempting me to change. :roll:

I quite like some of the overpowered nakeds,but I'd miss what a sports bike delivers and I'm not quite old enough yet to give it up.

Back to watching what pops up,then. :mrgreen:

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:30 pm
by MrLongbeard
If they stopped wasting their time n money reliving all the retro and cafe racer shit they could have built me a right proper trick hover bike by now :think:

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:33 pm
by KungFooBob
How about a proper pucka Superbike, but with a Nikken style front end, but also a version with a traditional front end and lets see which is quicker.

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:54 pm
by A_morti
If Honda could dump the overweight cb500f and bring me a cb500r, please.

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:18 pm
by Bigjawa
Supermofo wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:04 pm Not a looker but the Tuono 660 could be fun
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/n ... ealed-spec

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That's just sexy....

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:56 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
A_morti wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:54 pm If Honda could dump the overweight cb500f and bring me a cb500r, please.
The Honda concept bike I linked to, I'd prefer it if it had a mid sized engine tuned for mid range, rather than a 140bhp 1000cc engine, 90 bhp is more than enough for me, I'd be happy with a 60bhp 600cc 4 cylinder bike.

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:16 pm
by v8-powered
I reckon the trend for retro-styled bikes will continue, seems to be a drop in the demand for the high-end sportsbikes?

I've still got this hankering for a Triumph Speed Twin - will see how my business looks over the coming months and if good will treat myself :thumbup:

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:07 pm
by A_morti
Julian_Boolean wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:56 am I'd be happy with a 60bhp [s]600cc[/s] 400cc 4 cylinder bike.
You know they made it already, right? 2020 CB400.
Even if it has EFi and VTEC it's still based on a late-80s engine, so I guess they don't send it here because it can't get through EU emissions.
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Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:06 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
They've been selling a VTEC CB400 since the late 90s, I think that body work shape since 2006, great little bikes, I'd happily buy a new one of them at a sensible price - the non VTEC one I had was great, could have done with a bit more mid range power though.

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:25 pm
by A_morti
Julian_Boolean wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:06 pm They've been selling a VTEC CB400 since the late 90s, I think that body work shape since 2006, great little bikes, I'd happily buy a new one of them at a sensible price - the non VTEC one I had was great, could have done with a bit more mid range power though.
They'll add VTEC one year, EFi another, four-pot brakes another, LED headlight another, swanky wheels another, etc, etc.
Incrementally changes but yes same basic bike as when they started making them, around 1992.
Maybe the VTEC gave it the midrange you wanted? Admittedly an extra few cc would have more chance.

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:17 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
I look at the VTEC ones occasionally, sometimes they come up at sensible money, but they're always the other end of the country or overpriced.
The engine is similar to the early CBR600s (but not interchangeable) so a bigger cc version wouldn't be impossible for Honda, though I suspect the Hornet fills that role as far as Honda is concerned.

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:28 pm
by Nidge
v8-powered wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:16 pm I reckon the trend for retro-styled bikes will continue, seems to be a drop in the demand for the high-end sportsbikes?

I've still got this hankering for a Triumph Speed Twin - will see how my business looks over the coming months and if good will treat myself :thumbup:
Having racked up 500 miles in just over a week I can safely say you won’t be disappointed if you get one. I can’t keep off mine, it is ridiculously easy to ride and the engine is a real gem- lots of torque across the rev range, a lovely burble from the V&H pipes, slick gearbox and a slipper clutch add to the pleasure. The finish on it is superb with loads of lovely details, it really is one of those bikes that makes you smile the moment you open the garage

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:44 pm
by weeksy
Nidge wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:28 pm
v8-powered wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:16 pm I reckon the trend for retro-styled bikes will continue, seems to be a drop in the demand for the high-end sportsbikes?

I've still got this hankering for a Triumph Speed Twin - will see how my business looks over the coming months and if good will treat myself :thumbup:
Having racked up 500 miles in just over a week I can safely say you won’t be disappointed if you get one. I can’t keep off mine, it is ridiculously easy to ride and the engine is a real gem- lots of torque across the rev range, a lovely burble from the V&H pipes, slick gearbox and a slipper clutch add to the pleasure. The finish on it is superb with loads of lovely details, it really is one of those bikes that makes you smile the moment you open the garage
Why have we not swapped yet?

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:34 pm
by Dodgy69
v8-powered wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:16 pm I reckon the trend for retro-styled bikes will continue, seems to be a drop in the demand for the high-end sportsbikes?

I've still got this hankering for a Triumph Speed Twin - will see how my business looks over the coming months and if good will treat myself :thumbup:
I reckon the Triumph speed twin and the xsr 900 is where it's at, at the moment, tbh. Retro styling with a modern twist and a pinch of tracker, oh, and a tad quirky. 👍

Re: 2021 bikes?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:53 pm
by v8-powered
Nidge wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:28 pm
v8-powered wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:16 pm I reckon the trend for retro-styled bikes will continue, seems to be a drop in the demand for the high-end sportsbikes?

I've still got this hankering for a Triumph Speed Twin - will see how my business looks over the coming months and if good will treat myself :thumbup:
Having racked up 500 miles in just over a week I can safely say you won’t be disappointed if you get one. I can’t keep off mine, it is ridiculously easy to ride and the engine is a real gem- lots of torque across the rev range, a lovely burble from the V&H pipes, slick gearbox and a slipper clutch add to the pleasure. The finish on it is superb with loads of lovely details, it really is one of those bikes that makes you smile the moment you open the garage
Going to have to get my arse down to my nearest dealer and sort out a test ride. Saw one of the dark red/silver ones a few weeks back and it looked stunning.