Marquez is Back At Aragon

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Marquez is Back At Aragon

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Woo hoo. Let's hope he gets up to speed quickly. The others will be hoping not 'too' quickly ;)

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Would be good to see him back at the sharp end again.
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I bet Fabio hopes MM gets in the way of the hordes of Ducatis.
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7th then a crash, taking out Quat
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I really hope Marc can come back near the front and battle for wins. I can't see him being dominant like before but be great if he can get in the title fight next year.
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weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:39 pm 7th then a crash, taking out Quat
This, but probably lower than 7th.
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I reckon he'll pace himself rather than get knackered half way. But might set a flier in qually ;)
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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:05 pm I reckon he'll pace himself rather than get knackered half way. But might set a flier in qually ;)
Maybe, but it must be very difficult to be able to feel that margin between as fast as possible and in the gravel when you've not ridden competitively for so long.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:05 pm I reckon he'll pace himself rather than get knackered half way. But might set a flier in qually ;)
This does seem to be a bit of a new Marc. He genuinely seems to realise this is probably last chance saloon and he can't throw himself down the road willy nilly. Arm aside his vision issues he's admitted to being scared about which is normal but rare for Marc to admit. Thing is a Marc turned down slightly is probably capable of a title fight I think. If he can be consistent which was one of his big strengths whilst toning down the need to win even when he is 18th he could still be a champion. Consistency across a season seems to be a weak spot for most of the current title contenders as evidenced by Mir's championship.
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Aragon MotoGP: Marc Marquez: ‘The objective this weekend is to build for the future, excited to return to MotoGP’

"Well, what can I say? I am very excited to return to MotoGP this weekend, especially at such a special track for me like Aragon," said Marquez.

"The objective this weekend is not to go out and fight straight away, it is to build up everything and prepare well for the future. Build myself, the bike, everything.

"Misano was good but the race weekend will be different, there’s more intensity and less time to rest so it will be a different kind of challenge.

"I have been doing a lot of recovery work and continuing in the gym as well as riding a bike again before this weekend. I am very happy to be back!"
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Supermofo wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:56 am
Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:05 pm I reckon he'll pace himself rather than get knackered half way. But might set a flier in qually ;)
This does seem to be a bit of a new Marc. He genuinely seems to realise this is probably last chance saloon and he can't throw himself down the road willy nilly. Arm aside his vision issues he's admitted to being scared about which is normal but rare for Marc to admit. Thing is a Marc turned down slightly is probably capable of a title fight I think. If he can be consistent which was one of his big strengths whilst toning down the need to win even when he is 18th he could still be a champion. Consistency across a season seems to be a weak spot for most of the current title contenders as evidenced by Mir's championship.
MM has always shone precisely because he was quite prepared to throw the bike at the stands if it wasn't what he needed to win. That lack of self preservation was a real tool in his armoury.It remains to be seen if he can temper that wild riding style and use his talent to lose a win on the day for the sake of a championship.

I hope he's back to something approaching his previous self,but life has ways of teaching us all to be circumspect.
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Right then, we may as well call this the Aragon thread for the weekend.

Session 1 underway now. According to MM he's got a 1% chance of a podium....
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Cal steady in 12th :)
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Yeah the Brit boy is doing pretty well this early on and showing it's not completely garbage... it's going to be very interesting to see if he can beat even just a few bikes over the weekend, after all both Dovi and Morbi properly struggle to get out of last.
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Good on him for being ahead of Morbidelli in their first runs.
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POS RIDER NAT TEAM TIME/DIFF LAP MAX
1 Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) 1'48.686s 6/14 344k
2 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.012s 5/19 350k
3 Alex Rins SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +0.089s 12/19 345k
4 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) +0.176s 17/21 342k
5 Johann Zarco FRA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.196s 4/18 345k
6 Enea Bastianini ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21) +0.205s 18/18 345k
7 Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.319s 7/17 347k
8 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.399s 5/20 342k
9 Franco Morbidelli ITA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.402s 12/14 341k
10 Luca Marini ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) +0.484s 18/20 343k
11 Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.521s 5/18 343k
12 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.634s 17/19 344k
13 Jack Miller AUS Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.636s 18/18 350k
14 Marco Bezzecchi ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)* +0.663s 15/18 346k
15 Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +0.671s 5/19 344k
16 Cal Crutchlow GBR WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1) +0.706s 5/17 347k
17 Joan Mir SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +0.761s 10/14 344k
18 Alex Marquez SPA LCR Honda (RC213V) +0.804s 12/19 344k
19 Pol Espargaro SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.829s 4/18 341k
20 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.956s 16/17 347k
21 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21)* +1.164s 5/18 344k
22 Remy Gardner AUS KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +1.563s 17/18 339k
23 Raul Fernandez SPA KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +1.626s 4/17 341k
24 Darryn Binder RSA WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)* +1.684s 3/19 343k
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They just mentioned again that MM's arm had been 34 degrees out of place.

Just thinking. What sort of crap surgeon does such a shit job?
Wonder if there'll be any medical negligence claim?
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Marquez might even have finished the session at the front if not for a moment in the last corner - blimey.
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That’s a fair amount, where the ulna joins on to the wrist there is a natural 11 degree drop, I had mine manipulated back into place after a fracture and it’s now flat and that looks like a huge difference so I can only imagine 30+ degrees of difference.
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Yorick wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:39 pm They just mentioned again that MM's arm had been 34 degrees out of place.

Just thinking. What sort of crap surgeon does such a shit job?
Wonder if there'll be any medical negligence claim?
In which direction? I mean, did they pin/plate it wrong? or do the commentators mean it has 34 degrees less movement than it should?

I don't really understand 34 degrees 'out of place' - but I've not found anything to say exactly what he had 'done' (maybe didn't look hard enough!)
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