Depression

[Count Steer]

The OP hasn't logged in since April.

Anyone in contact with @Scud ?

Just got a reply he's all good, just avoiding the internet.. so yeah, he's cool. He may check in soon.

Good to hear.

[Scud]

The OP hasn't logged in since April.

Anyone in contact with @Scud ?

Just got a reply he's all good, just avoiding the internet.. so yeah, he's cool. He may check in soon.

Good to hear.

I’m here!!

As weekly said, sort of staying away from internet, using Facebook for business advertising but that’s it.

I will have a read through the thread when I get 10 minutes and will update on what I’ve been doing to get me to a good place and more importantly stay there.

I’m happy this thread has run and got people talking and hopefully helping too, if my shitty days help someone speak up and start to get help then my crap days are worth it

[Ian]

Where do people go for help with mental issues?
I tried the quack, he asked me 5 questions from a web form and offered me SSRIs(?). I know they're busy but maybe I expected too much.
Tried phone counselling and it was like a race to complete the script so I told them not to bother after a while.
I don't know whether it's anxiety depression or just stress but my head is so full of 'noise' I'm exhausted and it's leading to me making bad judgements.

[Yorick]

Where do people go for help with mental issues?
I tried the quack, he asked me 5 questions from a web form and offered me SSRIs(?). I know they're busy but maybe I expected too much.
Tried phone counselling and it was like a race to complete the script so I told them not to bother after a while.
I don't know whether it's anxiety depression or just stress but my head is so full of 'noise' I'm exhausted and it's leading to me making bad judgements.

I got amazing help when I was first diagnosed.
Insist on seeing a specialist.

Good luck.

[Couchy]

Where do people go for help with mental issues?
I tried the quack, he asked me 5 questions from a web form and offered me SSRIs(?). I know they're busy but maybe I expected too much.
Tried phone counselling and it was like a race to complete the script so I told them not to bother after a while.
I don't know whether it's anxiety depression or just stress but my head is so full of 'noise' I'm exhausted and it's leading to me making bad judgements.

Docs prescribed me SSRI over the phone several times, SSRI are completeley wrong for me. I’ve ended up at a private psychotherapist and it’s best thing I’ve ever done

[katana]

Where do people go for help with mental issues?
I tried the quack, he asked me 5 questions from a web form and offered me SSRIs(?). I know they're busy but maybe I expected too much.
Tried phone counselling and it was like a race to complete the script so I told them not to bother after a while.
I don't know whether it's anxiety depression or just stress but my head is so full of 'noise' I'm exhausted and it's leading to me making bad judgements.

Welcome to the joy of fuck all funding.

The doc will offer SSRI as a first step and probably offer CBT is at least a 6 months plus wait.

will add more later

[MyLittleStudPony]

Where do people go for help with mental issues?
I tried the quack, he asked me 5 questions from a web form and offered me SSRIs(?). I know they're busy but maybe I expected too much.
Tried phone counselling and it was like a race to complete the script so I told them not to bother after a while.
I don't know whether it's anxiety depression or just stress but my head is so full of 'noise' I'm exhausted and it's leading to me making bad judgements.

Just my thoughts. I think people's experiences of mental health vary considerably, as do the ways which they find or which suit them, of getting help.

A GP can prescribe tablets, including SSRIs. These will work for some and not others. I think any counselling they may also prescribe can take a long time to actually take place.

Private counsellors are available. I think they will be a mixed bag, some good, some not.

There are organisations and groups, often third sector / charitable, which can provide support, such as Mind, Andy's Man Club and many others. These are well worth looking into IMO.

Some people are lucky enough to draw elements of support from friends and family. Not everyone is good at this however, but some people are excellent.

There are ways to seek help in times of crisis such as NHS 111, option 2 and The Samaritans. If anyone thinks they might need to call these sort of organisations but are in doubt, my advice is to call and speak to them. A&E can be somewhere to go if bad things seem imminent.

There are probably many more options.


I think mental health is like bad backs; what works for one person may not be best for another.


Good luck to anyone and everyone who is struggling or struggles sometimes. I hope you can find help which works for you. There is a lot out there but it can be frustrating and feel hard to access.

[Yorick]

After my meltdown 13 years ago, I was on propranolol regularly with Diazepam for whenever I needed it.
But stopped after 2 years.
I've managed since then ok with my coping mechanisms. But only just.
Lately a few things have happened and I've had big problems.

For last 4 weeks I've needed to put master cylinders on the GSXR and Pen's AJP, but couldn't do it. Scared of not being able to do it. So can't ride it

I've been thinking about going to see the doc, but language is a bit of an issue. Needs to be perfect to discuss medical stuff. So I've been planning a letter to write and then translate. But that in itself is a nightmare.

Broke down this morning and Pen sat with me , writing the letter as I spoke.

Wow. Was like a heavy weight off my shoulders. We're going to see doc tmrw.

Went for usual 10 mile cycle and felt so positive, I attacked Pen's M/C.
Was a bugger to bleed, but I was surprisingly calm. Cool

I've taken first step and I feel fantastic.

[Wossname]

This might sound like a platitude but I don’t think it is. The first step is often the biggest and most difficult one. Keep going.

[Yorick]

Every morning I walk 4 miles and always feel great but then go downhill late morning till mid afternoon.
I'd jobs to do today but didn't feel like it.
Then one of my best called and we talked bollox for 40 minutes. And planning the trip to BSB at Navarro.

I felt great after and done 2 of the jobs. Gonna get the paint and brushes out soon. Some folk give you positivity.

He mentioned he has 2 old racing pals who suffer from health depression. IIRC.

They panic if they get any health ailments and think they're gonna die and head to the doctor. Shit, that must be awful. Mine's always temporary

[Potter]

I wouldn't say I'm depressed, more numb. And tired. Constantly tired and with a sense of oppression, like the world is pressing down on me.

Not sure what triggers it. Might be the surrogate stress I was having with the Gremlinette moving out, or maybe it's empty nest syndrome.

I feel like this sometimes, I'm not depressed, not suicidal, I want to live forever, but at times I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders and any extra tiny little issue tips me over the edge and I feel like the world is ending. I had a flat tyre the other day and I actually felt like crying just because I didn't want to deal with it, it felt so unfair that I should have to deal with an issue as monumental as a flat tyre, it was at least as big of a deal as a nuclear war or something.

Small events that I would normally take in my stride can feel oppressive and crushing.
I feel like such a fraud, on paper I have what most people would view as a very enviable existence, but it often doesn't feel like it to me.

[Greenman]

I wouldn't say I'm depressed, more numb. And tired. Constantly tired and with a sense of oppression, like the world is pressing down on me.

Not sure what triggers it. Might be the surrogate stress I was having with the Gremlinette moving out, or maybe it's empty nest syndrome.

I feel like this sometimes, I'm not depressed, not suicidal, I want to live forever, but at times I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders and any extra tiny little issue tips me over the edge and I feel like the world is ending. I had a flat tyre the other day and I actually felt like crying just because I didn't want to deal with it, it felt so unfair that I should have to deal with an issue as monumental as a flat tyre, it was at least as big of a deal as a nuclear war or something.

Small events that I would normally take in my stride can feel oppressive and crushing.
I feel like such a fraud, on paper I have what most people would view as a very enviable existence, but it often doesn't feel like it to me.

I'm like that pretty much all the time but unfortunately my frustration comes out in anger.

I don't suffer fools lightly, and with so many fools around these days i am frustrated quite a lot.

Any little thing can push me over the edge and i go into full rage kill mode. I need to get over it but have had it all my life and have just accepted i am a lairy bastard. It has got me in trouble many times but what can you do!

Most of the time i am a ray of sunshine to be around 'not my words btw!' but if something winds me up and tips me over the edge then i can be the absolute devil.

Hey ho. Show me the bongs - in fact, my temper is the very reason i started smoking the erb...

[gremlin]

I wouldn't say I'm depressed, more numb. And tired. Constantly tired and with a sense of oppression, like the world is pressing down on me.

Not sure what triggers it. Might be the surrogate stress I was having with the Gremlinette moving out, or maybe it's empty nest syndrome.

I feel like this sometimes, I'm not depressed, not suicidal, I want to live forever, but at times I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders and any extra tiny little issue tips me over the edge and I feel like the world is ending. I had a flat tyre the other day and I actually felt like crying just because I didn't want to deal with it, it felt so unfair that I should have to deal with an issue as monumental as a flat tyre, it was at least as big of a deal as a nuclear war or something.

Small events that I would normally take in my stride can feel oppressive and crushing.
I feel like such a fraud, on paper I have what most people would view as a very enviable existence, but it often doesn't feel like it to me.

It's weird, as I hardly have any recollection of writing that, and at the moment I feel pretty good about life as a whole. Shows how these periods of depression, or whatever you want to call them, come and go.

Your last sentence is bang-on how I feel sometimes. I believe they call it 'impostor syndrome'. I'm told I do a great job, I get complimented a lot at work and a while ago somebody said to me, 'You have no idea how much you are respected in the bank'.
And yet I sit in meetings thinking everybody is smarter than me, more qualified, and that what I do is child's play and that one day I'll be rumbled.

The human psyche is fucking strange thing.

[Yorick]

After my meltdown 13 years ago, I was on propranolol regularly with Diazepam for whenever I needed it.
But stopped after 2 years.
I've managed since then ok with my coping mechanisms. But only just.
Lately a few things have happened and I've had big problems.

For last 4 weeks I've needed to put master cylinders on the GSXR and Pen's AJP, but couldn't do it. Scared of not being able to do it. So can't ride it

I've been thinking about going to see the doc, but language is a bit of an issue. Needs to be perfect to discuss medical stuff. So I've been planning a letter to write and then translate. But that in itself is a nightmare.

Broke down this morning and Pen sat with me , writing the letter as I spoke.

Wow. Was like a heavy weight off my shoulders. We're going to see doc tmrw.

Went for usual 10 mile cycle and felt so positive, I attacked Pen's M/C.
Was a bugger to bleed, but I was surprisingly calm. Cool

I've taken first step and I feel fantastic.

As usual in my world, things don't move fast. Went yesterday. Wrote a long letter describing all my symptoms then translated it.

The doc talked for ages. Then gave me Chlordiazapoxide. (Librium)
I know from helping a mate years ago that it's used to help alcoholics come off the booze.
I've not had a drink for about 5 weeks so no good here

We've been reading about it and only a short half life and only for 3 -6 months. It's to quickly help bad bouts.

That's not I want. I hopes to have something gentle for long term help.

I'm now panicking about taking these as they're quite string.
It's made things worse

[Potter]

Your last sentence is bang-on how I feel sometimes. I believe they call it 'impostor syndrome'. I'm told I do a great job, I get complimented a lot at work and a while ago somebody said to me, 'You have no idea how much you are respected in the bank'.
And yet I sit in meetings thinking everybody is smarter than me, more qualified, and that what I do is child's play and that one day I'll be rumbled.

The human psyche is fucking strange thing.

I don't have imposter syndrome at work (and I sometimes mix with some pretty big hitters) because experience has taught me that most people are even bigger chancers than I am

I mean a fraud as in moaning about mental health issues, when to an outsider it probably looks like I live a charmed life.

[mangocrazy]

experience has taught me that most people are even bigger chancers than I am

I'm currently drinking Assam tea out of a mug which has this stencilled on it:

'The older you get, the more you realise that no-one has a fucking clue what they're doing.

We're all just winging it'

[gremlin]

Your last sentence is bang-on how I feel sometimes. I believe they call it 'impostor syndrome'. I'm told I do a great job, I get complimented a lot at work and a while ago somebody said to me, 'You have no idea how much you are respected in the bank'.
And yet I sit in meetings thinking everybody is smarter than me, more qualified, and that what I do is child's play and that one day I'll be rumbled.

The human psyche is fucking strange thing.

I don't have imposter syndrome at work (and I sometimes mix with some pretty big hitters) because experience has taught me that most people are even bigger chancers than I am

I mean a fraud as in moaning about mental health issues, when to an outsider it probably looks like I live a charmed life.

My F-i-L has four brothers. One has been battling depression for years. I remember my F-i-L's comment some years back: 'I don't know how he can be depressed, he got a fucking great pay out from BT when he took redundancy'. Like getting a wad of money suddenly lifts the dark clouds and makes you better. Who knows, if it works for depression it may work for cancer or help you grow an amputated limb back...

My wife's brother is a miserable* sod. His common retort when moaning is, 'I'd be alright if I could win the lottery'. I told him once that he go from being skint and miserable to rich and miserable, but still fucking miserable never the less.

*Miserable, and always blaming his short comings on others. Never his fault, always the world being unfair, other people fucking him over. Gets on my tits, tbh.

[Potter]

*Miserable, and always blaming his short comings on others. Never his fault, always the world being unfair, other people fucking him over. Gets on my tits, tbh.

I grew up in a house like that, my old man came home every day from work complaining that the whole world was holding him back.
It took me a long time to realise that whatever happens to me in this life is up to me.

On the subject of money, it's got bugger all to do with happiness and might even be detrimental, because if you're not focussed most of the time on just about breaking even financially, then it gives you more time to ruminate on all your other worries. Especially if you've spent your whole life working hard towards financial security, you might just reach it and then wonder what to do next and have an identity crisis
Your kids leave home and you've suddenly got no need to work anymore, so if you're not a worker or parent anymore then what are you? I think a lot of people end up not having an answer to that question.

[gremlin]

Your kids leave home and you've suddenly got no need to work anymore

My kid has left home and it's costing me a bloody fortune. What have I done wrong?

[Yorick]

I don't think this story is out of place here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68449923

Very sad.