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New bike [project]
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:53 pm
by kendo57
Wanted something to replace my MZ so found this MZ based IWL Troll 1 .
Quirky

Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:58 pm
by weeksy
Quirky!
Tell us more
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:04 pm
by Count Steer
kendo57 wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:53 pm
Wanted something to replace my MZ so found this MZ based IWL Troll 1 .
Quirky
Superb!
Want.

Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:11 pm
by Dodgy69
Your a braver man than I.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:52 pm
by kendo57
Update, very unlike me this was an impulse buy, i usually take months to decide a purchase.
The bike had no paperwork and still had its German number plate, so i need to get it registered before could do any work.
First i contacted
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:12 pm
by kendo57
Update, very unlike me this was an impulse buy, i usually take months to decide a purchase.
The bike had no paperwork and still had its German number plate, so i need to get it registered before could do any work.
First i contacted Inland Revenue about a Nova cert, they were very helpful and sent me the form advising me to include a dating cert and covering letter explaining the bike was in the UK when purchased.
Next i contacted the MZ club and after a few Emails they sent someone round to view the bike. A week later the Date cert arrived.
The Nova form was sent with Date cert and covering letter and a couple of weeks later a Nova Cert arrived.
M.O.T next, the bike was in good condition and after inspection just needed a headlight bulb and new horn. I trailered the bike to the M.O.T station were the owner laughed and said it was awful. Still passed the M.O.T though.
Next i downloaded the registration form from the DVLA , it looks quite daunting at first , full of questions about emissions, weight and measures ect.
After some research I found most questions relate to new vehicles and all i needed was the basics, Colour, Make Model etc. very simple.
So the Registration form, Nova, M.O.T, Date cert, a few photo's and a covering letter were sent to the DVLA.
Three weeks later and the Registration Cert arrived, the Troll is now CBU 820B.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:22 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
What year is that, 1963?
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:23 pm
by Mr Moofo
Has Counchy ever had one of those ?
I think this is a first !

Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:51 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Does it actually need an MOT? Is that part of the first registration process...'cause I don't think it'll need one ever again?
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:59 pm
by Asian Boss
Sweet!

Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:49 am
by wull
First registered 1st of January 1964.
As for the MOT with it being over 40 years old it should be exempt but you have to apply for it to be exempt. I wonder if this mot was purely because of the registration process, because I’m thinking until you actually apply for the exemption an mot will be required every year.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:49 am
by wull
Oh and it’s horrible, but each to their own.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:50 pm
by kendo57
MOT was needed for registration but now it is classed Historic so exempt.
Strip down started, all came apart really easy.
I had intended to paint the Chassis myself but because of the shape it will be better powder coated.
I dropped off the Frame, Fork and Swing Arms to the powder coaters this week and started the engine strip.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:55 pm
by G.P
that is completely fantastic, keep us fed with lots of pics.

What size motor is it?
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:57 pm
by ajlog
Never seen a co-axial kickstart / gear selector shaft arrangement before, let alone a chain driven co-axial kickstart shaft, brilliant.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:59 pm
by KungFooBob
The small indy bike shop I get all my MOT's done at have a Trophy in. They've had it for a couple of years and three times a year (when I get my MOT's) I threaten to buy it.
Very similar styling, which I think is pretty cool.
If you're ever in Berlin the DDR Motorrad Museum is worth a visit.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:01 pm
by KungFooBob
ajlog wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:57 pm
Never seen a co-axial kickstart / gear selector shaft arrangement before, let alone a chain driven co-axial kickstart shaft, brilliant.
Bet you've never seen a neutral finder either

Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:32 pm
by kendo57
Had the engine stripped and all bearings have been changed.
Fitted a later upgrade primary chain, new clutch and piston rings.
Generally, the engine looked quite good, and I could have got away with just leaving it as found.
Shocks are rebuildable so just a strip and rebuild with new oil
Frame back from powder coating
Starting the rebuild, lots to do yet

Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:12 pm
by mangocrazy
Fantastic job, and all the bits were in surprisingly good nick. It's clearly been looked after during its life, but the refresh/rebuild you're doing will bring it back to as new. At first it all looks completely wrong, but it's actually very well designed and (best of all) simple. It's a triumph of function over form.
Re: New bike [project]
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:45 pm
by kendo57
Bit of a problem with the drum brakes as the drums are knackered. They are made of some sort of cheap iron casting with a thin liner which has worn through and blistered. So, after much searching on the internet, I discovered that some cars have the same size rear brake shoe [160mm] inside the rear disc set up for the hand brake.
I purchased two rear discs for a 90's Vauxhall Carlton for £15 and set about with my grinder to cut the discs off.
A little cleaning up on my lathe and they fit perfect, even have the same bolt hole pattern, result.
