Vote of No confidence?

[Noggin]

If Boris Johnson is voted out, who is there to replace him?

Is it a case of the 'best of a bad group'?

Or is there someone who is actually better?

(Aside from the comment I've read elsewhere that 'anyone' is better - can't quite accept that as I'm pretty sure there are some other shockers in the party!!)

[KungFooBob]

He won't get voted out.

[DefTrap]

Personally I think he's ridden his affable, man-of-the-people nonsensical personality (and all that comes with it) to the point of and beyond what even some of his loyal supporters can stomach. His personality, which got him in in the first place, is ultimately his downfall.

No I don't think he'll go today either, but I do think there may be sufficient backlash to weaken him.

As for replacements. Meh.

[Noggin]

I can't see them actually voting him out right now, but then they didn't vote out Theresa May but she went soon after!!

As for replacements. Meh.

That's kind of how I feel looking at them, but I don't read up on politics much, so figured I just don't know enough!!

[DefTrap]

That's kind of how I feel looking at them, but I don't read up on politics much, so figured I just don't know enough!!

Well, how would you? Even the front benchers stay under the radar to some extent. If someone towards the backbenches is pushed forward they effectively have a clean slate - a clean slate is better than a dirty plate, often that's more useful than any great test of competency.

Anyway - on paper Boris shouldn't have been touched with a bargepole, with his history of fibbing, incompetency and pissing about.

[Noggin]

That's kind of how I feel looking at them, but I don't read up on politics much, so figured I just don't know enough!!

Well, how would you? Even the front benchers stay under the radar to some extent. If someone towards the backbenches is pushed forward they effectively have a clean slate - a clean slate is better than a dirty plate, often that's more useful than any great test of competency.

Anyway - on paper Boris shouldn't have been touched with a bargepole, with his history of fibbing, incompetency and pissing about.

I never did understand how he came to be voted in!

But for the how could I know much - TBF, I've always thought other people have a lot more knowledge about politics and politicians than me. I'm quite naive about it all and deliberately don't read a lot about it since I moved here as I have no plans to move back there so have less and less interest. Before I lived here I generally talked to my brother and dad and a couple of friends who 'know' about politics and then read a bit before I voted. But on a day to day basis I hold my hands up and say I couldn't deal with reading about it all the time!

I do need to start reading up on the French system and politicians as at some point I hope to have nationality and so will be able to vote here!!

[Mr Moofo]

I doubt the vote of confidence will oust him - but is does rather suggest, even to him, his time is limited.
The sad fact is I cannot see any “talent” that is going to replace him:
Javid
Truss
Hunt
Zahwari (?)
Raab
Patel

Says a lot really
And then there is Dorries ….

[Count Steer]

Interesting insight from a Tory 'staffer'. He'll probably survive the vote thanks to the new northern MPs, who don't care whether the party wins the next election as long as they keep their seats. They haven't been in power long enough to sort out a cushy job to parachute into if they get ditched and the dole beckons for some. They assume that Northern voters still think he's 'just a bit of a character'.

If he does survive it'll be like one of those bulls in a bullfight, staggering around, head down after the picadors have stabbed them in the neck with their lances a few times. Bloodied, still standing but ultimately doomed.

The pity of the replacement is that there are probably a few that could do a better job of running the country by assembling and working with a decent cabinet....but they'll never get the party votes. Running the country properly isn't on their list of appropriate talents for candidates.

[Yambo]

I doubt the vote of confidence will oust him - but is does rather suggest, even to him, his time is limited.
The sad fact is I cannot see any “talent” that is going to replace him:
Javid
Truss
Hunt
Zahwari (?)
Raab
Patel

Says a lot really
And then there is Dorries ….

You forgot Gove.

He'll be interested.

[slowsider]

Sunak as an outsider.

[Cousin Jack]

Sunak as an outsider.

Should be a front runner. One of the few with the wits to do the job, but perhaps now tainted by his wife's non-dom status.

[Horse]

You forgot Gove.
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Gove, voice(s) of the people?

[Greenman]

The pity of the replacement is that there are probably a few that could do a better job of running the country by assembling and working with a decent cabinet....but they'll never get the party votes. Running the country properly isn't on their list of appropriate talents for candidates.

This.

I honestly think we will never have a decent, law abiding leader with morals and the passion to lead a nation ever again.

I honestly think that what ever you put on your next election card will make no difference what so ever.

I truly think unless we tear what we have down we can never build it back up to anything more than we currently have...

[Mr Moofo]

You forgot Gove.

Gove, voice(s) of the people?



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Gove really scares me - there is something very machivellian about every thing he does . He even makes Peter Mandelson look trustworthy

[mangocrazy]

And then there is Dorries ….

Nadine Dorries is what you get when the ventriloquist dies but the dummy carries on talking...

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

The pity of the replacement is that there are probably a few that could do a better job of running the country by assembling and working with a decent cabinet....but they'll never get the party votes. Running the country properly isn't on their list of appropriate talents for candidates.

This.

I honestly think we will never have a decent, law abiding leader with morals and the passion to lead a nation ever again.

I honestly think that what ever you put on your next election card will make no difference what so ever.

I truly think unless we tear what we have down we can never build it back up to anything more than we currently have...

What do you mean "again", that indicates there's been one in the past, who was it?

[Cousin Jack]

I honestly think we will never have a decent, law abiding leader with morals and the passion to lead a nation ever again.

I honestly think that what ever you put on your next election card will make no difference what so ever.

I truly think unless we tear what we have down we can never build it back up to anything more than we currently have...

What do you mean "again", that indicates there's been one in the past, who was it?

Greenie is still pining for Maggie.

[irie]

I would not be surprised to see the vote being fairly close and Johnson resign.

But in any case if Johnson does survive I believe the upcoming 2 by-elections in June (23rd?) in Wakefield and Devon will prove to be his nemesis.

[irie]

211 have confidence vs 148 no confidence.

Over 40% do not have confidence in Johnson.

Dead man walking.

[1913]

You forgot Gove.

He'll be interested.

Interested like a coke head gagging in a talcum powder factory.