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https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... echnology/

It’s only been a year since the first radar-equipped bikes started to reach customers but already there are new companies starting to supply the tech.

Over the next couple of years radar is set to become the must-have tech on bikes and with fresh faces like Israel’s Vayyar coming into the market, the scene is set for a tech tussle that will encourage rapid improvement.

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While Bosch supplied the first front and rear-facing radars fitted to production bikes, with Ducati, BMW, KTM and Kawasaki adopting the German kit, we’re already seeing more firms getting in on the action.

Triumph’s new Tiger 1200 GT Explorer and Rally Explorer have rear-facing radars supplied by Continental, and as we reported last year, Piaggio are set to reveal their first bikes using Vayyar’s radars.

Vayyar’s kit is somewhat different from the Bosch system that’s laid the template so far and is described by the firm as '4D' – it uses far more antennae than a normal radar, generating a high-resolution 3D 'point cloud' image of the world around it and using Doppler analysis, the measurement of distortion in the reflected radar waves caused by movement, to establish the relative velocity of objects it detects.

The greater number of antennae means the Vayyar radars have a 170-degree field of view both horizontally and vertically, which is significantly wider than the radar cone of more traditional systems.

The vertical coverage and wide field of view are particularly useful on bikes as it means the sensor won’t lose track of an object as you tip into a corner.

The system also claims a much longer range than the market-leading Bosch radar, with Vayyar’s system picking up targets as far as 300m away, compared to 160m for the Bosch front radar. That’s potentially important, as bikes can’t use the sort of automated emergency braking systems seen in radar-assisted cars.

Motorcycle brake-assist can’t be aggressive, as it might throw the rider off, so being able to spot potential dangers at a greater distance and provide warnings or automated assistance earlier is a valuable benefit.

Vayyar say the system, with both front and rear radars, can support blind spot detection, lane change assist, adaptive cruise control, front and rear collision warning and rider brake assist and costs the same as existing radars (for reference, the Bosch front radar option on BMW’s R1250RT costs £500).

Long vision Up to 300 metres – vital for brake-assist or early warning systems so as not to cause panic reactions from riders.

Wide angle Around 170-degrees of coverage per radar, both horizontally and vertically, means two units (one front, one rear) give nearly 360-degree coverage.

More antennae There are up to 48 antenae rather than the seven in most automotive radars – using WiFi-style MIMO (Multiple Input, Multiple Output) technology to track multiple targets, and Doppler analysis to work out their velocity and direction of movement.

Small but affordable Safety kit is no good if it’s only fitted to the most expensive, unattainable bikes, but Vayyar say their radars are low-cost and small enough to be fitted unobtrusively and affordably, even on scooters.

Staying on target Current radars like the Bosch MRR (Mid-Range Radar) monitor up to 32 objects but Vayyar say their system can keep track of an unlimited number of targets.

When cats arch their backs, elephants spread their ears, frogs puff up their throats or cobras spread their hoods they’re all doing one thing: making themselves look bigger than they really are. And that’s precisely what motorcycles of the future may try to do when mingling with autonomous cars.

Since radar is the dominant technology being used in driver assistance systems and for the sensor arrays of the next generation of self-driving cars, the trick will be to give bikes a larger radar cross-section than they really have, allowing them to be sensed at a greater distance.
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IMU Needed so fan-shaped radar signal doesn’t pick up the road surface when you turn into a corner.

I had a short ride (off road) on a radar-equipped scooter, set up to operate the brakes if it detected an obstruction. Which might have been great (it wasn't) if it didn't pick up grass and stones on the concrete surface.

Edit. Re braking for obstructions, it was too little too late to stop the bike but, I suppose, the reduction in speed might have reduced injury severity. That said, it was a one-off test vehicle, not anything intended for production.
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What if the rider and the radar disagree what is an immediate hazard, like joining a motorway where acceration is your friend ? Bearing in mind I don't understand it properly.
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Currently, the Geneva Convention says that control of the vehicle cannot be taken away from the driver.
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I come over all Luddite when I read that. :cry:
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I rarely use cruise control in the car, can't see that I'd ever have wanted it on a bike on UK roads.
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Cruise control is epic for average speed cameras in 50 limit roadworks.

As a minor point, I wonder how these systems work when everyone is beaming radar beams everywhere. Presumably they have a unique code in their own signal or something but I'd be curious to know.
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Horse wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:07 am I rarely use cruise control in the car, can't see that I'd ever have wanted it on a bike on UK roads.
Manual box? I use it frequently with an auto.
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slowsider wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:43 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:07 am I rarely use cruise control in the car, can't see that I'd ever have wanted it on a bike on UK roads.
Manual box? I use it frequently with an auto.
On the bike? Foot operated.

In the car, it would only be in certain traffic situations, albeit I don't have adaptive CC.
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CC bloody rocks, in the car I use it everywhere all the time.
Contemplating putting it on the bike for those few times it gets on the M-way, but not fully decided yet.
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I heard once that a bike-mounted brake assist technology was triggered by a swirl of fallen leaves picked up by a gust of wind.

I'm not anti-tech but I do wonder how much you can do with a bike when riders are just plain incompetent. A training school popped up a video from their security camera of a 125 rider tucking the front at walking pace. He said he wasn't using the front brake and blamed it on the CBS on that bike - the video's not clear enough to see whether his right hand is over the lever but the way the front went out, that would be my guess. Cheap OE Chinese tyres and a slick surface probably contributed but the real problem was trying to brake and turn at the same time.
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My old emergency brake system (car) was triggered a few times by lifting car park barriers. The reflective tape on them made them appear to the optical system as much larger and brighter than they actually were.
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:36 pm I heard once that a bike-mounted brake assist technology was triggered by a swirl of fallen leaves picked up by a gust of wind.
Car systems can be triggered by rain - both mine & Filly's have reacted that way.
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:36 pm a 125 rider tucking the front at walking pace. He said he wasn't using the front brake and blamed it on the CBS on that bike
Amble, or double-time route march walking? Front wheel angled too?
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Horse wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:42 pm Car systems can be triggered by rain - both mine & Filly's have reacted that way.
That's not great on four wheels, but frankly it bothers me on two... I remember an inadvertent application of the front brake at speed when I was despatching... my carefully constructed bracket holding the handlebar muff away from the front brake lever came loose and the wind pressure at motorway speeds on the muff suddenly applied the brake - I wasn't braced and had a BIG wobble.
Amble, or double-time route march walking? Front wheel angled too?
Turning onto their forecourt... so the front was angled when it started to slide so it went down immediately. Rider broke a bone in his forearm despite it being at about 4 mph.
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I remember when it was the riders responsibility to look where they were going and natural selection took care of those that didn't.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:24 pm I remember when it was the riders responsibility to look where they were going and natural selection took care of those that didn't.
And V*lv* drivers
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My car has radar on it and collision detection, it’s hit the brakes before now when I’ve been judging overtaking a parked car to perfection in between gaps of oncoming traffic. On a bike that would be even more of an issue. It’s my 3rd or 4th car with it and they’ve all been the same. Cruise control is ok unless again it’s the radar version, on the motorway it leaves a huge gap which others jump into and then it hits the brakes or slows you down. It’s just not clever enough in a car yet so nowhere near good enough for 2 wheels.