What was the Curtis outcome?
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What was the Curtis outcome?
@MingtheMerciless - have they come back to you with a post mortem on what the issue was ?
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
It’s been sent back to them and they say it’ll get sorted , it arrived with them late last week and I suspect they’ll need to get some new dropouts ordered from paragon in the US so I’m not expecting a quick turn around.
As to the cause, I’ll see what they say once they have debrazed the old dropout out.
As to the cause, I’ll see what they say once they have debrazed the old dropout out.
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
Being repaired and re sprayed in colour of my choice.
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"Even the lies?"
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
And presumably an explanation as to why to failed.MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 am Being repaired and re sprayed in colour of my choice.
Shocking Pink will look good going over Firle!
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
Curtis are at a loss, it's the first dropout that's failed like that, no sign of an internal defect on the crack face. They have people riding AM9's much larger than me and in far more rocky area and no failures.
Chalk it up to shit happens.
Leaning towards Kawasaki Green or Orange.
Chalk it up to shit happens.
Leaning towards Kawasaki Green or Orange.
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"Even the lies?"
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"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
It’s back!
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
Most of the invisframe fitted today along with some proper 3M helitape stuff on the down tube and other areas vulnerable to rub and strikes. A few more bits to fit and then I can start refitting parts.
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
I've recently fitted 2 dyedbro kits. They're not as refined as invisiframe but a lot thicker materialMingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:46 pm Most of the invisframe fitted today along with some proper 3M helitape stuff on the down tube and other areas vulnerable to rub and strikes. A few more bits to fit and then I can start refitting parts.
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
Also had a call from Curtis to ask if I had taken delivery of the frame, they've actually changed the dropout design because of this and upped the strength by around 20% according to their calculations (they're 1mm thicker now).
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
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"Even the lies?"
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"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
You can work out for yourself if the "20% stronger" is true using Young's Modulus.MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:54 pm Also had a call from Curtis to ask if I had taken delivery of the frame, they've actually changed the dropout design because of this and upped the strength by around 20% according to their calculations (they're 1mm thicker now).
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
You can work out for yourself if the "20% stronger" is true using Young's Modulus (assuming by "stronger" they mean "stiffer").MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:54 pm Also had a call from Curtis to ask if I had taken delivery of the frame, they've actually changed the dropout design because of this and upped the strength by around 20% according to their calculations (they're 1mm thicker now).
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
They had to beef it up because you is hard - or because they are now going to have to do a recall as they under-engineered?MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:54 pm Also had a call from Curtis to ask if I had taken delivery of the frame, they've actually changed the dropout design because of this and upped the strength by around 20% according to their calculations (they're 1mm thicker now).
Odd that a company with such a good reputation could build too "light".
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
It’s the first one that’s broken like that and they’ve built them for years so I think it has been beefed up as a modicum of caution rather than built too light.Mr Moofo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:17 amThey had to beef it up because you is hard - or because they are now going to have to do a recall as they under-engineered?MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:54 pm Also had a call from Curtis to ask if I had taken delivery of the frame, they've actually changed the dropout design because of this and upped the strength by around 20% according to their calculations (they're 1mm thicker now).
Odd that a company with such a good reputation could build too "light".
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"Even the lies?"
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"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
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Re: What was the Curtis outcome?
Test ride tmrw
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