Another Chinese manufacturer enduro

[Jody]

Just stumbled across this on utube, might be of interest to some of you, sub £5k for a brand new 250 2t !

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I'm sure it's good, a 40 year old IT175 would be quick enough for a lot of people (if it were brand new, not knackered after doing 40 years of Enduros)

[Yorick]

For £5k you could get a 2 year old KTM.
Just as good with far better residual value

[dern]

Better long term parts support too I would have thought.

[PitaNaanRoti]

For £5k you could get a 2 year old KTM.
Just as good with far better residual value

Where do you think most of the bikes are manufactured now?
95% of that KTM won't be from Austria just because the "manufacturer" supposedly puts it together there.
Its only an external quality control that gives certain Manufacturers names on things - the identical product with a slightly lower QC process is for sale at 30-50% less or more on other places. You see it on loads of push bikes all the time.

[Yorick]

For £5k you could get a 2 year old KTM.
Just as good with far better residual value

Where do you think most of the bikes are manufactured now?
95% of that KTM won't be from Austria just because the "manufacturer" supposedly puts it together there.
Its only an external quality control that gives certain Manufacturers names on things - the identical product with a slightly lower QC process is for sale at 30-50% less or more on other places. You see it on loads of push bikes all the time.

If I had to go out into the wild, I wouldn't gamble on being able to get home.

[Hairybiker84]

For £5k you could get a 2 year old KTM.
Just as good with far better residual value

Where do you think most of the bikes are manufactured now?
95% of that KTM won't be from Austria just because the "manufacturer" supposedly puts it together there.
Its only an external quality control that gives certain Manufacturers names on things - the identical product with a slightly lower QC process is for sale at 30-50% less or more on other places. You see it on loads of push bikes all the time.

If I had to go out into the wild, I wouldn't gamble on being able to get home.

What about the Chinese bike though?

[mangocrazy]

A Chinese two-stroke - what could possibly go wrong?

[weeksy]

A Chinese two-stroke - what could possibly go wrong?

How many lawnmowers, chainsaws, etc you reckon they've made in the last 20 years?

[Taff]

A Chinese two-stroke - what could possibly go wrong?

How many lawnmowers, chainsaws, etc you reckon they've made in the last 20 years?

Indeed,

And as it's a Yamaha engine being built under licence, we could assume that the worst thing that could go wrong is pretty much the same as any other 2 stroke, it'll nip up at some point.

Fwiw I really like the look of the bike, I'm unlikely to buy another enduro bike but watching that video makes me think about it

[mangocrazy]

A Chinese two-stroke - what could possibly go wrong?

How many enduro lawnmowers, chainsaws, etc you reckon they've made in the last 20 years?

Fixed that for you...

[Mr. Dazzle]

As ya man says, plenty of what's on your "name brand" bike - for want of a better phrase - is made in China anyway. So much so that OEMs are pulling stuff OUT of China for fear of it being copied too much.

Plenty of really fancy aircraft parts (for western Airliners) are made in China.

[mangocrazy]

When I was rebuilding my 350LC a year or so back I was told in no uncertain terms by a number of people who did actually know what they were talking about to NOT use cheap Chinese pistons. Stick to decent quality Japanese items (Mitaka), they said.

So while I'm sure that China can and does make quality stuff, when I'm splashing the cash for critical items I'll go for stuff I trust. When it comes to stuff like CNC brake and clutch levers, I'll happily pay £20 for a pair of trick anodised jobbies and laugh all the way to the bank.

[Mr. Dazzle]

When I was rebuilding my 350LC a year or so back I was told in no uncertain terms by a number of people who did actually know what they were talking about to NOT use cheap Chinese pistons. Stick to decent quality Japanese items made in a factory owned by a Japanese company but built in China

FTFY

[Taff]

When I was rebuilding my 350LC a year or so back I was told in no uncertain terms by a number of people who did actually know what they were talking about to NOT use cheap Chinese pistons. Stick to decent quality Japanese items (Mitaka), they said.

So while I'm sure that China can and does make quality stuff, when I'm splashing the cash for critical items I'll go for stuff I trust. When it comes to stuff like CNC brake and clutch levers, I'll happily pay £20 for a pair of trick anodised jobbies and laugh all the way to the bank.

I'm amused that you think a piston is more critical than a brake lever.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

When I was rebuilding my 350LC a year or so back I was told in no uncertain terms by a number of people who did actually know what they were talking about to NOT use cheap Chinese pistons. Stick to decent quality Japanese items (Mitaka), they said.

So while I'm sure that China can and does make quality stuff, when I'm splashing the cash for critical items I'll go for stuff I trust. When it comes to stuff like CNC brake and clutch levers, I'll happily pay £20 for a pair of trick anodised jobbies and laugh all the way to the bank.

I'm amused that you think a piston is more critical than a brake lever.

How do you know that's what he thinks?

[Yorick]

When I was rebuilding my 350LC a year or so back I was told in no uncertain terms by a number of people who did actually know what they were talking about to NOT use cheap Chinese pistons. Stick to decent quality Japanese items (Mitaka), they said.

So while I'm sure that China can and does make quality stuff, when I'm splashing the cash for critical items I'll go for stuff I trust. When it comes to stuff like CNC brake and clutch levers, I'll happily pay £20 for a pair of trick anodised jobbies and laugh all the way to the bank.

I'm amused that you think a piston is more critical than a brake lever.

It gets a much harder life.

[Taff]

When I was rebuilding my 350LC a year or so back I was told in no uncertain terms by a number of people who did actually know what they were talking about to NOT use cheap Chinese pistons. Stick to decent quality Japanese items (Mitaka), they said.

So while I'm sure that China can and does make quality stuff, when I'm splashing the cash for critical items I'll go for stuff I trust. When it comes to stuff like CNC brake and clutch levers, I'll happily pay £20 for a pair of trick anodised jobbies and laugh all the way to the bank.

I'm amused that you think a piston is more critical than a brake lever.

How do you know that's what he thinks?

Because he said so up there ^^^^^^

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I'm amused that you think a piston is more critical than a brake lever.

How do you know that's what he thinks?

Because he said so up there ^^^^^^

That'll teach me not to read posts properly, personally I wouldn't touch cheap brake levers with a barge pole.

[mangocrazy]

When I was rebuilding my 350LC a year or so back I was told in no uncertain terms by a number of people who did actually know what they were talking about to NOT use cheap Chinese pistons. Stick to decent quality Japanese items made in a factory owned by a Japanese company but built in China

FTFY

So 'Made in Japan' on the box and on all their literature counts for nothing, then? I'll trust what Gerry Pell and Tony Dawson advised me, thanks.