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Stealth Omicron

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A new version that a PCR test can't detect. I'm hoping this won't mess up my travel plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... id-variant
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Does it matter when no one gets ill from Omicron, it's a bit of non virus.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:39 pm Does it matter when no one gets ill from Omicron, it's a bit of non virus.
It matters for travel. Mandatory PCR tests have been re-introduced for some travel now, I've got ferries booked to Ireland on 23rd of this month and Spain in early January, PCR tests for both.
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It matters if it spreads because it doesn't show up in testing and people don't know they've got it, as it will spread faster and then you'll got a real incubator for new variants that may not be so benign. They're worrying now that this is different enough to be tagged as a new variant, so that's 3 on the go all of which appear to respond differently to the vaccine developed for the first one.

The scientists are worried so I guess they think it matters.
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It's already fecked my Christmas. :(
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DefTrap wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:56 pm It's already fecked my Christmas. :(
Mine too :( In that it's too difficult to have my nephew come to resort :( Constant testing for kids from the UK without full vaccinations. He won't have had his until after Christmas :(
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Noggin wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:58 pm Mine too :( In that it's too difficult to have my nephew come to resort :( Constant testing for kids from the UK without full vaccinations. He won't have had his until after Christmas :(
Yeah, everything is booked and ready to go but the cost and availability of multiple PCRs on and around Christmas (plus the threat of increased restrictions meaning you may get stuck somewhere, or return and go into expensive quarantine) mean that it is rapidly becoming a no-goer.

Trying to be positive - it could be worse after all - but all this is getting pretty dull now.

When it comes to Omicron, my missus brought home a filthy 'cold' from the UK. I guess it could be COVID but it's not showing up on tests. Interestingly the couple of family members she was in contact with in the UK, and inevitably got it from, are also ill - similar not-very-like-covid symptoms, one tested +ve, the other didn't.
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Pirahna wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:34 pm A new version that a PCR test can't detect. I'm hoping this won't mess up my travel plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... id-variant
If it can't be detected, it can't fuck up your travel plans.

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DefTrap wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:07 pm When it comes to Omicron, my missus brought home a filthy 'cold' from the UK.
Yes, there's been a nasty chewing gum cold going around. Filly tested every day, not covid.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:51 pm It matters if it spreads because it doesn't show up in testing and people don't know they've got it...
gremlin wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:18 pm
Pirahna wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:34 pm A new version that a PCR test can't detect. I'm hoping this won't mess up my travel plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... id-variant
If it can't be detected...
It shows up on all the normal tests.
The only 'stealthy' aspect of it is that it is Omicron-like variant that isn't easily detected (though can be by genomic sequencing) as Omicron-like with the ready-reckoner they're using.
It is still detected by all the tests as 'Covid'.
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I reckon it'll mutate until it kills us all,just like time does.
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Kneerly Down wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:10 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:51 pm It matters if it spreads because it doesn't show up in testing and people don't know they've got it...
gremlin wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:18 pm
Pirahna wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:34 pm A new version that a PCR test can't detect. I'm hoping this won't mess up my travel plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... id-variant
If it can't be detected...
It shows up on all the normal tests.
The only 'stealthy' aspect of it is that it is Omicron-like variant that isn't easily detected (though can be by genomic sequencing) as Omicron-like with the ready-reckoner they're using.
It is still detected by all the tests as 'Covid'.
After delving into the article again I eventually spotted that. They could have made it a bit clearer! Shouldn't affect travel arrangements so :thumbup: for Pirhana.
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If no one has any symptoms and it does you no harm, how is it an illness?
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:45 pm
Kneerly Down wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:10 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:51 pm It matters if it spreads because it doesn't show up in testing and people don't know they've got it...
gremlin wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:18 pm

If it can't be detected...
It shows up on all the normal tests.
The only 'stealthy' aspect of it is that it is Omicron-like variant that isn't easily detected (though can be by genomic sequencing) as Omicron-like with the ready-reckoner they're using.
It is still detected by all the tests as 'Covid'.
After delving into the article again I eventually spotted that. They could have made it a bit clearer! Shouldn't affect travel arrangements so :thumbup: for Pirhana.
I will admit to skimming over the article when I first read it. Still, it's the Internet, so I can be as alarmist as I like.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:08 pm If no one has any symptoms and it does you no harm, how is it an illness?
Must admit I've not read much on it except a few SA doctors saying people seem less ill, but I didn't think we had proper evidence for that yet just a few anecdotes?

I hope it's true. I'm a bit done with Covid now. Sadly it's not done with me what with 2 plague monkeys in my house :angry-cussingblack:
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They say it spreads faster. How does that work. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:08 pm If no one has any symptoms and it does you no harm, how is it an illness?
Makes other people get symptoms though...that's the problem. You're still a spreader. Typhoid Mary and all that.
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Dodgy knees wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:50 pm They say it spreads faster. How does that work. 🤷🏻‍♂️
If the symptoms are mild, you don't take time off work because you don't realise you've got it, you give it to more people who also don't take time off work and spread it to even more people.

Maybe this is the variant we've been waiting for: better than a vaccine. Maybe.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:52 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:08 pm If no one has any symptoms and it does you no harm, how is it an illness?
Makes other people get symptoms though...that's the problem. You're still a spreader. Typhoid Mary and all that.
How can other people get symptoms if there aren't any, or if they're mild is it worth worrying about?
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I've just got back from abroad and it was right as ninepence. Like I said, don't you worry about all that covid bollocks.
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