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Interesting documentary on BBC 1 Wales (Sky CH 952, Tue 8:30). It's been going for a few years, I've probably seen all the reruns.

S3 E2 was on last night. A KTM 1090 (Fowlers courtesy bike) crashed into an old couple in a Rav4, when they pulled out from a garden center. It showed how they reconstructed the scene by taking photos & measurements, putting the vehicles together and using a 3D laser scanner.

Spoiler

From how far the rider slid after impact they think he was ejected with enough force left to carry on at 50 mph. Fowlers had a Tracker map which showed where he'd ridden, but had no speed data.

The tracker company later provided a spreadsheet which suggested he'd gone up to 93 mph beforehand and even 123 mph earlier on.

Other factors were he was riding a more powerful bike than he owned with two other bikes. They didn't prosecute due to his injuries.

Clever use of tech. On another episode they managed to get a car airbag module interrogated by the manufacturer in Japan. It revealed the telemetry of what the engine, car and driver was doing at the last second.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b056g3

Full episodes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/ ... detectives

Yes, caught a couple of those during my recovery from replacement hip (going well 3 weeks post-op since you ask). They've used the telemetry interrogation previously. Presumably the episode you mention is on iplayer?

One of my/our coach's was SIO for this kind of stuff.
He and his team had to use mathematics initially to work things out and it was far less precise, obs!
He comes out with some real horror stories as well as some absolute classics.
Personally, I don't understand why the rider wasn't charged with RLAC just because of his injuries suffered.
So do something illegal, hurt yourself, walk/hobble/roll away with it!

Personally, I don't understand why the rider wasn't charged with RLAC just because of his injuries suffered.
So do something illegal, hurt yourself, walk/hobble/roll away with it!

Did they say how serious his injuries were? I can imagine if he's disabled for life there wouldn't be much point in a prosecution?

Dickyboy wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:00 pm

Personally, I don't understand why the rider wasn't charged with RLAC just because of his injuries suffered.
So do something illegal, hurt yourself, walk/hobble/roll away with it!

Did they say how serious his injuries were? I can imagine if he's disabled for life there wouldn't be much point in a prosecution?

As the copper was heading to the scene, radio updates were:
- life-threatening injuries
- police escort requested for the ambulance

I must try to watch this, BBC Wales you say?

iPlayer has Series 2.

iansoady wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:39 am Yes, caught a couple of those during my recovery from replacement hip (going well 3 weeks post-op since you ask). They've used the telemetry interrogation previously. Presumably the episode you mention is on iplayer?

Looks like the airbag data is on S2 E4.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... -episode-4

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... t-16008322

GWS. I bet you're a big fan of hip-op now! My dad had a TKR and I saw how the back of his leg was black & blue, struggling up the stairs and got given needles of Enoxaparin to take home.

He'd had a lot of pain with an arthritic knee, but now it's tip top. He's done lots of hiking and even backpacking carrying 15 kg.

I had a TKR about 9 years ago and the hip was much less painful as well as requiriing less physio - the problem with the knee is that you need to do fairly painful stuff to get the range of motion back. With the hip, because they've sliced up all the muscles etc that hold it in place the risk is it dislocates....

Still, both are highly recommended rather than the alternative.

Filly had a (relatively early, due to injury) TKR in May.

I keep quiet about my hurty knee now, after what she went through

It'll get to you in the end.... I would recommend sooner rather than later. By six months she should be getting back to normal though.

iansoady wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:38 pm It'll get to you in the end.... I would recommend sooner rather than later. By six months she should be getting back to normal though.

She's at 4.5 months now, it's improving.