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MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:44 am
by weeksy
Undoubtedly one of the major talking points of this weekend is the return of Marquez. Funnily, if he scores 5th place, he finishes race 3 on the same points that Mir had after 3 races last season.... So he's clearly not out of it in such a topsy turvy season again.
The KTMs went brilliantly here last season in the first time of MotoGP coming here.
What are we predicting then ? I'm thinking a Yamaha of Quat on the top step, Binder in 2nd and a 3rd place for Rins.
Moto2, it's hard to see past Lowes, Gardner or Bezzechi for the win
Moto3, i'm just looking forward to seeing the new kid on the block and seeing if he can win again. Along with hoping McPhee can break his unlucky streak.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:21 am
by lostboy
Interesting that you think Binder will beat last year's home winner, Miguel Oliveira, who is now on the same works bike. I'm not so sure about the hype around Binder.
I think Oliveira will be up there. The Yamahas and Suzukis will as well. It's a really tough call as to who from those four will occupy the podium. I'm going Quatararo, Mir and Oliveira not necessarily in that order.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:41 am
by the_priest
Marquez, Rossi and Miller. No particular order.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:32 pm
by Skub
All eyes will be on MM for sure. I sincerely hope there will be a collective sigh of relief if he returns on form and fully fit. We are so used to him being remarkable,it'd be a shock if he isn't.
His whole style is riding past the limit,then dialling back a hair,it's a proven winner,but he's never been shy about the crashes. I wonder if there'll be a more mature,more circumspect MM on show when he returns. Such a change may not be as dramatic for us,but could be equally deadly for his rivals.
In Moto2 Sam Lowes has come out swinging,lets hope the form continues without him picking up niggly injuries this year. Cool to watch the progression of Gardner too.
I'm almost scared to mention McPhee...
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:31 am
by lostboy
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A simple guide to MotoGP Data :
1 or 2?
If Marc Márquez has one functioning arm, he has a big problem.
If Marc Márquez has two functioning arms, the rest of the grid has a big problem.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:33 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
I'm going for McPhee punted off on lap 9
Sam Lowes for the win in Moto 2
Vinales for the win in MotoGP
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:35 am
by Yorick
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:33 am
I'm going for McPhee punted off on lap 9
He's starting from pit lane, miles behind the pack, so probably chuck himself down the road.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:41 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Yorick wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:35 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:33 am
I'm going for McPhee punted off on lap 9
He's starting from pit lane, miles behind the pack, so probably chuck himself down the road.
So we're agreed there's no chance he's going to finish the race.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:27 pm
by Supermofo
Yorick wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:35 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:33 am
I'm going for McPhee punted off on lap 9
He's starting from pit lane, miles behind the pack, so probably chuck himself down the road.
Then beat himself up in the gravel

Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:45 am
by formula400
its not funny, that poor lad, id love to see him take the Moto3 crown, he grafts hard. what's missing?? luck/skill/bike???
can't wait to see this weeks racing.
Lowes for Moto2
then Marc to take pole and then 1st (I think top 3 is a good bet)
Fabio 2nd and not sure who will get 3rd.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:50 am
by weeksy
formula400 wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:45 am
its not funny, that poor lad, id love to see him take the Moto3 crown, he grafts hard. what's missing?? luck/skill/bike???
can't wait to see this weeks racing.
Lowes for Moto2
then Marc to take pole and then 1st (I think top 3 is a good bet)
Fabio 2nd and not sure who will get 3rd.
You'd think in a pragmatic world there's no such thing as luck. But you can bet your arse that 50% of the front-runner crashes involve him. So if it's not luck, is it poor positioning ? Well, tough to say, often in Moto3 you end up where you end up due to slipstreams and how the pack flows at times. sometimes he'll get skittled from 2nd, sometimes it's from 9th... so it's not like there's a 'safe' position to hang about in, if that were even possible in Moto3. But he does seem very very unfortunate.
I'm still not convinced he's got the outright consistency for the title, even without the crashes... but clearly he'd be a lot closer than he often ends up.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:16 am
by weeksy
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/04/ ... ain/368189
Interview from MM..
The first crash… the sooner it arrives, the better?
“Logically, it will arrive. Hopefully sooner rather than later. It's one of the things I told the doctor. When I go back to riding my motorcycle, my arm should be ready to crash. I am going to risk and crashes will come and the body must be ready. Then it will be important that I get up, that I get back on the bike and this is part of it. What worries me the most is not the first crash, but riding the way I want again.”
45 mins until we're off for session 1 of Moto3. Let the games begin !
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:10 am
by Yorick
MM is bang on the pace after 4 or 5 laps. Wow.
Not ridden for 265 days.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:43 am
by Yorick
3rd in FP1. Awesome.
He said in interview, that he's prepared to crash. No problem.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:48 am
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:43 am
3rd in FP1. Awesome.
He said in interview, that he's prepared to crash. No problem.
You can't argue with 3rd first time out can you, that's remarkably impressive !
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:24 am
by Yorick
When he took his helmet off, he had a huge grin. Cheeky, almost cocky.
It simply said "I'm back"
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:01 pm
by formula400
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:20 pm
by G.P
FP2 was pretty impressive too. Bagnaia was the only one in the 1.39s and was 0.3 ahead of the field. Marquez was 6tth at 0.4 so a gaggle of them within a tenth. Jack Miller was just in front of him which is good for Jack..
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 pm
by Yorick
The Moto2 boys are flying.
In FP1, Joe Roberts set a time that would have put him 16th in MotoGP FP1, only 1.6 seconds off pole.
In FP2, JR was only 0.1 seconds off Jorge Martin in 22nd.
Re: MotoGP/moto2/moto3, Portimao, the return of the king.
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:23 pm
by weeksy
I'm still none the wiser who'll win the GP class tomorrow even after all the sessions. I'm thinking Quat must be right up there and I'm also hoping to see Olivera. But overall, still a mystery.
The run to the line should be massive