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The Wifi extenders don't work very well in the villa coz there are 3 distinct electrical circuits. The sparky explained it better than that.
He suggested using long ethernet cables to the top floor and the basement. I can do that.

Then the TVs on each floor will get enough flow for the 4K TV boxes

But can I plug the cables into something that the TV box can plug into, that will also 'create' WIFI for phones and laptops etc?

Gracia

A wireless bridge will do that but finding what you want in vague marketing speak could be difficult.

Mussels wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:47 pm A wireless bridge will do that but finding what you want in vague marketing speak could be difficult.

The WIFI from the modem is only about 30mb so that won't extend to the other floors, so that's why I was advised to use a cable. The modem kicks out 100Mb via ethernet.

Just use another router

Something like this would do: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Netgear-Orbi ... SwZ~9gZjmF

You don't really want a router, a switch is what you're after. A switch will let your main internet hub sort out the routing just by plugging in ethernet but then you'd need a WiFi repeater. That's a bit of extra faff as is disabling the router function so that you have one single WiFi SSID.

Stick to a good known named brand like Netgear. The cheapo noname Chinese stuff is often infested with spyware. No tinfoil hat required, it is a well known modus operandi especially for webcams.

Find a local spod to set up your network and internet security and ideally, get yourself a VPN. The game is afoot. Your digital life is such rich pickings for bank accounts, pension schemes, eBay, PayPal, credit card info etc. it is where the modern criminals make their money. From their bedrooms or as often as not, a purpose built government sponsored agency. /tinfoilhat

DefTrap wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:11 pm Just use another router

This- and it's exactly what I've done at my place- I re-purposed an old ADSL router as a wireless access point- it has 4 x ethernet ports on it, one is cabled back to my internet router leaving me 3 x ports to plug my cameras, etc into, and it also acts as a wireless access point extending my WiFi out to the garage etc and cost feck all

Pretty much any old ADSL or cable router will do as long as you have admin access to it- You ideally need a very basic knowledge of TCP/IP to do it, but not essential-all you have to do is assign it a static address on your network and disable the DHCP server within it - there are plenty of how-tos out there

Edit:- here ya go, this explains what to do.
http://www.techlineinfo.com/how-to-use- ... oint-only/

Yeah I've got two further routers running off ethernet ports of my main router.

One is a VPN router so I can watch Brit telly.

The other is literally just a bridged extension to get a WiFi in my office, which is too far and too many stone walls for the normal WiFi.

And I have spare routers, so ..

Yorick wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:07 pm

Mussels wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:47 pm A wireless bridge will do that but finding what you want in vague marketing speak could be difficult.

The WIFI from the modem is only about 30mb so that won't extend to the other floors, so that's why I was advised to use a cable. The modem kicks out 100Mb via ethernet.

A wireless bridge works both ways so you could use the Ethernet part to connect to upstairs. Most routers will do this as well as others have said. I have a powerline one that will do it and ignore the powerline part. The problem comes from interpreting what it says on the box as not all routers or powerlines will work like that.
Easiest is probably finding a router that says it works for cable as well as adsl because cable is just an Ethernet port. Ideally the router will have bridging mode, it will still work in router mode but you could have issues connecting equipment on different parts of your network.

We spoke to Movistar and they fixed and updated the higher frequency port in their modem. More options now

I'm a bit confused why we get better reception via wifi than ethernet. The TV and laptop both show 90 ish via cable, but WIFI is 50% more.

???

That's unusual, to do speed tests accurately you need to have everything else turned off that could use your bandwidth.
Part of your Ethernet may be stuck on 100Mb with the rest matching that speed, I'd still use Ethernet as that's plenty of speed and more stable than WiFi.

Yorick wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:39 pm I'm a bit confused why we get better reception via wifi than ethernet. The TV and laptop both show 90 ish via cable, but WIFI is 50% more.

???

@Yorick - The limit on your wired devices ( both wired and wireless are actually called ethernet, they are just using a different transmission medium), is 100Mbps (million bits per second) hence why you're only seeing 90ish -it's not " better reception" it is down to an IEEE standard speed that defines the rate that the information is transmitted at.


On your wired connections, this speed of transmission between your TV/Laptop and the router is hence 100Mbps, but your wireless will likely be operating at 154Mbps or possibly more dependant upon the age/spec of the router and network adapters in your wireless end devices.

In practice for a home user the 100Mb limit of your wired connections will not make any perceivable difference to you unless you are constantly downloading very large volumes of data- the network the other side of your router (ie Movistar and onwards) in reality will usually be the limiting factor, as you will be competing for / sharing that bandwidth with many others.

Buy a TP Link Deco Mesh system. They work very well ...

Mr Moofo wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:13 am Buy a TP Link Deco Mesh system. They work very well ...

I did this 3 years back when me moved into this house. Very good mesh saturation and easy to set up and administrate.

Mr Moofo wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:13 am Buy a TP Link Deco Mesh system. They work very well ...

I've just installed one of these. It only carries (if that's the right term) 100mps (which is plenty) and gives good coverage throughout with a consistent connection. Easy to install and I get a notification on my phone when a new device connects to it.

Mesh works well in the right situation but it's over sold IME, it's a slight evolution of a WiFi extender and still suffers it's main problems.
It may work for Yorik but if it's easy to use Ethernet I'd go with the wires.

I'd always use wired over wireless. To hack into a wired network you need physical access; with a wireless network you don't, just proximity. Also given the same notional speed on wired vs. wireless networks, wired will always be faster. Latency is always worse on wireless networks, and there is an unavoidable overhead in the networking protocols used. Basically with wireless transmission there is another set of headers and trailers in the data stream that need to be encoded/decoded for every packet sent/received. Also wireless is far more prone to environmental issues; stone walls blocking the signal, badly positioned routers, even the cat deciding to take a nap on the router.

Wired every time.

Wired is better than wireless, not just from a security perspective, wireless can suffer from interference, you'll also get far more dropped packets meaning the devices at either end have to work harder by transmitting the packet again if it's tcp or the packet gets lost if it's udp (generally speech, music or video), multiple devices connected to a single access point make it worse as the access point can only communicate with one device at a time.

If you can do it switched Ethernet is the way to go.
If you need to have multiple access points the best way from a speed perspective would be to use wireless routers with separate SSIDs and subnets for each router, look up broadcast domains if you want to know why.

BTW I don't think there's a common wifi security I can't break with two lap tops and enough time, and that's from Googleing how to do it.

Trinity765 wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 8:41 am

Mr Moofo wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:13 am Buy a TP Link Deco Mesh system. They work very well ...

I've just installed one of these. It only carries (if that's the right term) 100mps (which is plenty) and gives good coverage throughout with a consistent connection. Easy to install and I get a notification on my phone when a new device connects to it.

Which odd, as they quote 340 MBPS on the site ( depending on what deco, i guess). Mine runs at 200 mbps …

Network speeds are confusing by design. What people want to know is how many MB of computer data can be moved between machines, instead marketers use Mb instead as it's a bigger number. There are different levels to networks with each level consuming some of those bits so the end result is like buying a light bulb where the number of Watts stated on the box only gives you a rough idea of how much light it emits.