Uk Media

[Wreckless Rat]

It’s utterly shit isn’t it.

Not a fan of the BBC news, but thought I’d give it a try this morning. Ffs how does anyone watch this with any interest in unbiased reporting.

ITV - well.... ffs

Is there any morning news worth watching? What do you watch for news in the morning. I generally don’t bother but... surely there is something that reports UK issues/news without blatant bias, or perhaps there isn’t,

[KungFooBob]

How about RT or Al Jazeera?

[Wreckless Rat]

RT - Russia today? The name alone makes me think it’s got to be a tad biased, no?

Not tried AJ

[Jody]

It's worse than shit, it's disgraceful, an embarrassment to the UK

[Trinity765]

It is shit, yes! I dont have a tv so I don't watch the BBC News or anything else. I have an occasional scoot around the internet, BBC, the local news website, RT, Al Jazeera, RTTL to get a rough idea (bombs, earthquakes, tsunamis) and then I make the rest up myself. Uber drivers are a more reliable way of find out what's really going on. I've looked into cancelling my TV licence and you only need one if you watch something live - I'm happy to wait an hour and watch a recording. I may do it - it feels rebellious.

[Rockburner]

I don't watch TV anymore, what are the BBC news doing/saying that is coming across as biased? (and which way is it biased?)

[Rockburner]

It is shit, yes! I dont have a tv so I don't watch the BBC News or anything else. I have an occasional scoot around the internet, BBC, the local news website, RT, Al Jazeera, RTTL to get a rough idea (bombs, earthquakes, tsunamis) and then I make the rest up myself. Uber drivers are a more reliable way of find out what's really going on. I've looked into cancelling my TV licence and you only need one if you watch something live - I'm happy to wait an hour and watch a recording. I may do it - it feels rebellious.

These days you need the licence to watch iPlayer.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Philosophical question for ya...

How do you know they're all biased, if they're all biased?

[JamJar]

I don't watch TV anymore, what are the BBC news doing/saying that is coming across as biased? (and which way is it biased?)

I see people on the left and the right complaining about it being biased which makes me think maybe it isn't.

[Trinity765]

It is shit, yes! I dont have a tv so I don't watch the BBC News or anything else. I have an occasional scoot around the internet, BBC, the local news website, RT, Al Jazeera, RTTL to get a rough idea (bombs, earthquakes, tsunamis) and then I make the rest up myself. Uber drivers are a more reliable way of find out what's really going on. I've looked into cancelling my TV licence and you only need one if you watch something live - I'm happy to wait an hour and watch a recording. I may do it - it feels rebellious.

These days you need the licence to watch iPlayer.

They can have their iplayer. I've practically given up watching films too, all make believe stuff. I tend to find documentaries to watch if anything and there's plenty of free ones about.

[Yorick]

I check the BBC website for sport each morning.
Then look at news headlines and open any which look interesting. I can pick out the facts from the waffle.

No problems

[DEADPOOL]

Philosophical question for ya...

How do you know they're all biased, if they're all biased?

The key issue is polarisation. "News reporters" these days are more like celebrities than impartial information providers. They may have a personal agenda or simply have to support the particular narrative a channel has chosen to champion. Any information will either be biased in its presentation with the choice use of key words (the baying mob to describe a crowd for example) or information which may tend to contradict the narrative is simply ignored.

It is so easy to see it makes me cross because they are treating the audience as mindless fools. I cancelled my license fee some time ago or I would risk throwing something large and heavy at the TV. The TV "receiver" is now a media portal, I use it for YouTube. Have a look at the left wing nonsense, compare and contrast with the right wing nonsense, pick out the truth.

How often do we see the victim of a gangland murder portrayed as a harmless schoolboy only to discover a quick Google reveals pictures of a hardened criminal posing as a gangsta? How is it possible to describe an event as a "mostly peaceful" "protest" when an entire high street has just been smashed, looted and burned to the ground?

Something else you might watch out for is the language. Every single "news" channel will describe an event using the exact same stock phrase. As if they are all preaching from the same hymn sheet. Mostly peaceful, insurrection, right wing supporter, terrorist, debunked.

What the left seem to do in particular is tell you one thing while doing the exact opposite. We may have to redefine the word "unity". Meanwhile JoeBama is writing "executive orders" at a rate never seen before. He's literally behaving like a tinpot dictator...

This cannot end well.

[weeksy]

How often do we see the victim of a gangland murder portrayed as a harmless schoolboy only to discover a quick Google reveals pictures of a hardened criminal posing as a gangsta? How is it possible to describe an event as a "mostly peaceful" "protest" when an entire high street has just been smashed, looted and burned to the ground?

Something else you might watch out for is the language. Every single "news" channel will describe an event using the exact same stock phrase. As if they are all preaching from the same hymn sheet. Mostly peaceful, insurrection, right wing supporter, terrorist, debunked.

What the left seem to do in particular is tell you one thing while doing the exact opposite. We may have to redefine the word "unity". Meanwhile JoeBama is writing "executive orders" at a rate never seen before. He's literally behaving like a tinpot dictator...

This cannot end well.

Are you back in your US bashing again ?

[JackyJoll]

Are you back in your US bashing again ?

Maybe it’s one of his biases.

[MingtheMerciless]

I think the era of the proper TV journalist is gone, they are now as someone said earlier, media celebrities. The days of hard hitting, accurate journalism seem to be ebbing away, with more 5 minute reads or 2 minute videos. Our local BBC have very one sidedly reported at least 3 or 4 incidents/news items that I only found a more balanced version of later or had direct knowledge of at the time of the incident as I was involved in it.
My old man also relates the story of one of his most important clients having to retire suddenly and mysteriously in the 80’s when he was heading for the pinnacle of his profession. Years later he was talking to a “journalist” in a London pub when his clients name came up and the journalist proudly declared he’d got him as “he was a bender”.

[Cousin Jack]

I see people on the left and the right complaining about it being biased which makes me think maybe it isn't.

It is not so much the bias (all media is biased) but the unrelenting dumbing down that annoys me.

They tell you a headline, then they tell you again, then they ask Mrs F'ing Friggins in Frigtown what she thinks about that, then they tell you the same headline again. Detail? Evidence? Data? Don't be silly!

Then of course at least 50% of the content has to be a tale of woe about Covid. FFS we know it kills people, tell us how other countries are managing this shit storm. We might learn a lesson or two.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I think the era of the proper TV journalist is gone, they are now as someone said earlier, media celebrities. The days of hard hitting, accurate journalism seem to be ebbing away, with more 5 minute reads or 2 minute videos. Our local BBC have very one sidedly reported at least 3 or 4 incidents/news items that I only found a more balanced version of later or had direct knowledge of at the time of the incident as I was involved in it.
My old man also relates the story of one of his most important clients having to retire suddenly and mysteriously in the 80’s when he was heading for the pinnacle of his profession. Years later he was talking to a “journalist” in a London pub when his clients name came up and the journalist proudly declared he’d got him as “he was a bender”.

So....err....is that an argument for or against the media being more biased now?

[JackyJoll]

I think the era of the proper TV journalist is gone, they are now as someone said earlier, media celebrities. The days of hard hitting, accurate journalism seem to be ebbing away, with more 5 minute reads or 2 minute videos. Our local BBC have very one sidedly reported at least 3 or 4 incidents/news items that I only found a more balanced version of later or had direct knowledge of at the time of the incident as I was involved in it.
My old man also relates the story of one of his most important clients having to retire suddenly and mysteriously in the 80’s when he was heading for the pinnacle of his profession. Years later he was talking to a “journalist” in a London pub when his clients name came up and the journalist proudly declared he’d got him as “he was a bender”.

So you’re saying the era of the proper journalist was gone 35 years ago.

[Mr Moofo]

I think the era of the proper TV journalist is gone, they are now as someone said earlier, media celebrities. The days of hard hitting, accurate journalism seem to be ebbing away, with more 5 minute reads or 2 minute videos. Our local BBC have very one sidedly reported at least 3 or 4 incidents/news items that I only found a more balanced version of later or had direct knowledge of at the time of the incident as I was involved in it.
My old man also relates the story of one of his most important clients having to retire suddenly and mysteriously in the 80’s when he was heading for the pinnacle of his profession. Years later he was talking to a “journalist” in a London pub when his clients name came up and the journalist proudly declared he’d got him as “he was a bender”.

So you’re saying the era of the proper journalist was gone 35 years ago.

I am guessing there have been a few since them - such as Marie Colvin, Frank Gardiner but they are becoming few and far between. Let's face it, Kaye Burley is the tab end of tittle tattle journalism - Laura K is openly all about herself etc...
It is just another way of becoming a celeb - in reality they are all just jumped up weather girls and clothes horses

[DEADPOOL]

Are you back in your US bashing again ?

Nope. The whole world has gone mad. I am the only sane person here so far as I can tell.

Remember some time ago I was suggesting the big tech companies were becoming such a massive influence that it was becoming dangerous. You yourself were saying "yeah but how does that affect us here?" well, now you see the result.

The entire world media either have to parrot whatever woke, sycophantic, left wing Newspeak nonsense big tech declare as "truth" or be called domestic terrorist, white supremicist, racist bigots. There is no middle ground. Either you are for the media or you are against it.

If big tech don't like what you are saying, they will destroy you.