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Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:37 pm
by cheb

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:39 pm
by Nobby
My BiL rides their Bike in the European classic open class. It is a thing of engineering beauty. Ill hunt out some photos.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:43 pm
by Nobby
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Look at it carefully , the more you look the more you’ll find.
This was the Bike a few years back. It has a new front end now.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:48 pm
by Nobby
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Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:44 pm
by Whysub
I remember one being raced in various 250cc club championships in 1994/1995. It was a scruffy, run of the mill looking bike, but it transformed into something really interesting once the bodywork was off.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:45 pm
by cheb
Nobby wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:43 pm 7A0C6AF4-ECA2-44CA-B85E-7982D3367AB4.jpeg

Look at it carefully , the more you look the more you’ll find.
This was the Bike a few years back. It has a new front end now.
That is very pretty.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:56 pm
by Nobby
cheb wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:45 pm
Nobby wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:43 pm 7A0C6AF4-ECA2-44CA-B85E-7982D3367AB4.jpeg

Look at it carefully , the more you look the more you’ll find.
This was the Bike a few years back. It has a new front end now.
That is very pretty.
It's their own engine. A twin tandem disc with 4 carbs. Rear end bolts to the crankcase and front on the cylinder head.

Have you spotted the rear brake system ?

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:01 pm
by cheb
Using a pipe as the stay rod to save weight?

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:10 pm
by Nobby
cheb wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:01 pm Using a pipe as the stay rod to save weight?
yes , and the master cylinder as the lever as well.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:13 pm
by cheb
Yes, now I squint at it a bit harder.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:09 pm
by demographic
Cathcart always did write the best stuff for PB years ago and that article being one of his just confirms it.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:24 pm
by The Spin Doctor
I remember seeing that out on the circuits...

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:08 am
by Nobby
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inewham wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:32 pm I had always thought it was a rotax engine, I didn't realize it was their own engine too :thumbup:
Another dodgy photo taken from the Internet

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:33 pm
by Nobby
inewham wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:42 pm Can someone tell me the advantages of a tandem twin over a more conventional parallel twin?
You can use disc valves on a parallel twin and surely there must be losses gearing the 2 cranks together.
They seemed popular for a while in the 80s but ultimately V-Twins seemed to work better
Me, thinking on the top of my head and don't know shite.....would assume that a single/ parallel transfers are not restricted by the confines of having to squeeze cylinders together. Is a guess. I shall get that question off to the Boys that designed it.

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:36 pm
by porter_jamie
Package, and you can have a disk valve on both sides

Re: Exactweld TZ250

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:53 pm
by cheb
It'd be narrower, and with with small capacity water cooled cylinders there'd be no extra cooling problem nor would the motor be too long.

The crankshafts would turn in opposite directions too, that might be an advantage.

That's my guesses anyway.