Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

[Horse]

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[Mr. Dazzle]

I'm hearing alot of stuff about Hydrogen EVs now - so called "HFCEVs", Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles. As has been said a few times up there ^^^ hydrogen has the advantage that you can fill up in a few minutes. It has the disadvantage of needing an as yet pretty much non-existent infrastructure, plus it's more costly to move hydrogen about. As I've said a few times, I reckon if/when HFCEVs are a thing they'll actually be hybrids, they'll have fuel cells and batteries. One for long range, the other for short.

One big blocker though is making the tanks and cells at reasonable cost. Which is why i'm now seeing a lot of it - there are a spate of companies and government backed programmes to bring the cost down, like this one which some of my old colleagues are working on:

https://www.nccuk.com/news/uk-consortiu ... and-buses/

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Hmmm

H being a fuckwit, posted not just in the wrong thread but wrong forum ...

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Hmmm

H being a fuckwit, posted not just in the wrong thread but wrong forum ...

Hmm, I did wonder what you were rabbiting about.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Tesla are making bold claims for their new "Plaid" motor...

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/elon-mu ... r-version/

On the one hand it's good that they're generating enthusiasm around the subject. On the other hand, I do have to laugh - a carbon wrapped motor is NOT a new idea. They've been in series production for a decade at least! They're properly Apple like in the way they claim to have invented stuff that's been around for donkeys In fact they way Tesla do it - wrapping strands around a motor - is actually the lower performance version of the technology.

The carbon sleeve is such a 'revolutionary' idea that my colleagues can afford to ride slightly rude messages on them and give them out as leaving cards.

[Cousin Jack]

They're properly Apple like in the way they claim to have invented stuff that's been around for donkeys

'Twas always thus.

Everyone remembers James Watt and Robert Stephenson for inventing steam engines and steam locomotives.
Except Richard Trevithick invented the high pressure steam engine AND used it in a locomotive.

Everyone remembers Samual Colt for the revolver. He certainly didn't invent it, and didn't even make many. He was however brilliant at marketing.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Everyone remembers James Watt and Robert Stephenson for inventing steam engines and steam locomotives.
Except Richard Trevithick invented the high pressure steam engine AND used it in a locomotive.

Trust a Cornishman to know that

[Horse]

It's a long list.

Didn't Darwin borrow some ideas, then rush to publish?

Edison was supposedly not beyond shady business practices.

The first powered flight took place in England.

[Cousin Jack]

It's a long list.

Yep. Sharp marketing gets remembered.

[Horse]

I'm hearing alot of stuff about Hydrogen EVs now - so called "HFCEVs", Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles.

One big blocker though is making the tanks and cells at reasonable cost. Which is why i'm now seeing a lot of it - there are a spate of companies and government backed programmes to bring the cost down, like this one which some of my old colleagues are working on:

https://www.nccuk.com/news/uk-consortiu ... and-buses/

In the news today:

https://highways-news.com/london-gettin ... e-deckers/


London getting hydrogen double-deckers
Paul Hutton
by Paul Hutton

AIR QUALITY & EMISSIONS, ENVIRONMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
24 . 06 . 2021

England’s first ever hydrogen double decker buses are being launched in London, marking what the Mayor calls another major step towards making the bus fleet zero-emission and “cleaning up London’s toxic air”.

The 20 new environmentally-friendly buses, the first of their kind to be launched in England, will produce no pollution from their exhausts and join more than 500 electric buses in the core fleet which are already zero-emission. The new hydrogen fuel cell double decker buses are first being introduced on route 7 between East Acton and Oxford Circus.

[slowsider]

Catching up with the scotch
https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/429 ... n-aberdeen

[Cousin Jack]

The new hydrogen fuel cell double decker buses are first being introduced on route 7 between East Acton and Oxford Circus.

Now all we need is a hydrogen pump somewhere west of Bristol and we will all be told to give up fossil fuels.

[KungFooBob]

Tesla are making bold claims for their new "Plaid" motor.

Has Mr Musk watched Spaceballs too many times?

I suppose it is one up from Ludicrous speed.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I suppose it is one up from Ludicrous speed.

That was the old version of the car. Genuinely

[Horse]

Tesla Model 3 the UK's biggest selling car in June

5,468 T3s, beating 4,629 Golfs.

But the odd thing is that they haven't been in the top ten for the rest of the year.

[Mussels]

Tesla Model 3 the UK's biggest selling car in June

5,468 T3s, beating 4,629 Golfs.

But the odd thing is that they haven't been in the top ten for the rest of the year.

Counting registrations rather than sales?
So that will be a years supply arriving on the same ship.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Mercedes announced last week that they're cutting ICE development by 80% and allocating €40bn for the development of EVs up to 2030. By 2025 you'll be able to buy an electric equivalent of every model in their range.

As part of these drive they've also acquired a number of technology firms covering a whole range of things from recycled material, batteries and motor design. I am extremely happy about this

[Horse]

Counting registrations rather than sales?
So that will be a years supply arriving on the same ship.

That was my first thought, although ghat means a lot of depreciating assets parked somewhere. Unsold new is one thing, unsold registered is instant price drop.

My other first thought was a massive (rental?) fleet purchase.

[Mussels]

Mercedes announced last week that they're cutting ICE development by 80% and allocating €40bn for the development of EVs up to 2030. By 2025 you'll be able to buy an electric equivalent of every model in their range.

As part of these drive they've also acquired a number of technology firms covering a whole range of things from recycled material, batteries and motor design. I am extremely happy about this

Sounds good but is that every model in the current range or every model in their SUV only future range? Hopefully we'll start to get a better choice soon.
I was looking at a possible EV for me a few days ago, it had roof rails but they were cosmetic only with no loading allowed. Most seem to be no towing either, I don't know if that's because they know people who move loads around won't be interested or if it spoils their figures somehow.

[ZRX61]

There's a great pic doing the rounds on FB of a Tesla sitting on a rollback tow-truck parked at a Tesla charging station. I guess they couldn't just show up & pour enough electricity from a bucket to get the vehicle to the *gas station*.