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Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:46 pm**

What trinkets are they coming with ? ABS i'd assume... but what else ?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:50 pm**

https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bike ... nd-details

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:58 pm**

Same power as before but now euro 5
A few tweaks to the styling.
New headlight ,led indicators,lights. Reverse LCD clocks with remote,better brakes
Shame they didn't put upside down forks on it. Looks decent,bound to sell well.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:00 pm**

matt wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:58 pm Same power as before but now euro 5
A few tweaks to the styling.
New headlight ,led indicators,lights. Reverse LCD clocks with remote,better brakes
Shame they didn't put upside down forks on it. Looks decent,bound to sell well.

I'm struggling with why you'd buy one over a 790 though.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:04 pm**

weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:00 pm I'm struggling with why you'd buy one over a 790 though.

Cos the KTM costs a grand more?

People are scared of European reliability?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:05 pm**

Price and reliability I would think would be the main reasons.
Not as desirable as the KTM, but if I wanted a fun bike that I had to rely on to get me to work for 12 months of the year ( I don't) I'd pick the Yam.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:06 pm**

weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:00 pm
matt wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:58 pm Same power as before but now euro 5
A few tweaks to the styling.
New headlight ,led indicators,lights. Reverse LCD clocks with remote,better brakes
Shame they didn't put upside down forks on it. Looks decent,bound to sell well.
I'm struggling with why you'd buy one over a 790 though.

Because not everyone is the same as you, some people want a Yamaha.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:10 pm**

Julian_Boolean wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:06 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:00 pm
matt wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:58 pm Same power as before but now euro 5
A few tweaks to the styling.
New headlight ,led indicators,lights. Reverse LCD clocks with remote,better brakes
Shame they didn't put upside down forks on it. Looks decent,bound to sell well.
I'm struggling with why you'd buy one over a 790 though.
Because not everyone is the same as you, some people want a Yamaha.

Errrrm have you seen my bike ?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:23 pm**

I like it. Haven't seen it in all it's colour options yet and that is where I sometimes struggle with Yamaha, but seems a great fun bike. Would i have a CP2 instead of a CP3, probably not.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:46 pm**

MT07 is a better wheelie bike than the 790, very important lol

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:55 pm**

Love it, especially the headlight! Shame about the lack of USD forks, which does give it a bit of a budget look? I reckon they could have smashed it with USD forks. Does it have quick shifter blippy things? If not why not, it just adds to its budget bike class. I'd still buy it over a 790 though...

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:53 pm**

matt wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:58 pm Same power as before but now euro 5
A few tweaks to the styling.
New headlight ,led indicators,lights. Reverse LCD clocks with remote,better brakes
Shame they didn't put upside down forks on it. Looks decent,bound to sell well.

I liked the MT-07 but I simply couldn't read the clocks on it. Hopeless as I'm long-sighted... hopefully the new version will be better.

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:33 pm**

The Spin Doctor wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:53 pm
matt wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:58 pm Same power as before but now euro 5
A few tweaks to the styling.
New headlight ,led indicators,lights. Reverse LCD clocks with remote,better brakes
Shame they didn't put upside down forks on it. Looks decent,bound to sell well.
I liked the MT-07 but I simply couldn't read the clocks on it. Hopeless as I'm long-sighted... hopefully the new version will be better.

I can't read the dashboard on my GSXR, so bought some bifocals

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:51 pm**

matt wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:58 pm Same power as before but now euro 5
A few tweaks to the styling.
New headlight ,led indicators,lights. Reverse LCD clocks with remote,better brakes
Shame they didn't put upside down forks on it. Looks decent,bound to sell well.

So as i understand it same power as before with more Euro restriction it ends up with less power than the previous model. I know a few bikes recently have had more power in a new model but with the extra cat applied it means the newer bike punts out the same as the previous model

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:34 pm**

Bigyin wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:51 pm
So as i understand it same power as before with more Euro restriction it ends up with less power than the previous model. I know a few bikes recently have had more power in a new model but with the extra cat applied it means the newer bike punts out the same as the previous model

As you only need 10 hp to do 60 mph, does it really matter?

It's actually thrust (torque x gearing) that makes the bike accelerate, anyway

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:38 pm**

The Spin Doctor wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:34 pm
As you only need 10 hp to do 60 mph, does it really matter?

It's actually thrust (torque x gearing) that makes the bike accelerate, anyway

Dont give up the day job to sell bikes .... its all about BHP. power to weight etc etc to actually sell the bikes. The old WSB adage used to be "win on Sunday, sell on Monday"

My point was that many bike manufacturers now list power gains on their new models ...they quietly forget to mention that new EU regs strangle the engines more so that despite the engine power gains at the end of the day the bike puts out less at the rear wheel

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:56 pm**

Bigyin wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:38 pm
Dont give up the day job to sell bikes .... its all about BHP. power to weight etc etc to actually sell the bikes. The old WSB adage used to be "win on Sunday, sell on Monday"

My point was that many bike manufacturers now list power gains on their new models ...they quietly forget to mention that new EU regs strangle the engines more so that despite the engine power gains at the end of the day the bike puts out less at the rear wheel

I don't follow your reasoning. The motor makes its power with all the emissions gubbins in place... or are you suggesting the quoted power figures are with an exhaust system minus the cat? I think that would be very much frowned on by the EU if they were caught at it.

But my point stands about torque and gearing. That's what you feel at the back wheel. And you can't accelerate faster than a wheelie... low gearing - that's what made 250 two strokes so much fun

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:15 am**

Harry wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:07 am Ridiculously annoying video, but I quite like the bike, it reminds me of my Dragster.

IRL these budget middle of the road bikes are a bit bland but as someone has said it would be a great all round bike and FWIW I think USDs look gash now, when they first came out they got everyones attention but now I think they just look rubbish and I prefer a more classic fork look.

If I was looking for a decent all rounder that was competitive on price then this would definitely be on my list, but if price was a factor then I'd be looking at previous models on the used market.

Agreed, very annoying video. I had to freeze it to get a look at the bloody bike!

KTM makes those videos well and other manufacturers should leave them to it!

I've had an eye on the MT-07 for a while now and really like them, although i'm unlikely to ever buy one. For me its no Dragster though...

Posted: **Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am**

Taipan wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:15 am For me its no Dragster though...

Well no, but the Dragster is double the purchase price.

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