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At the upcoming Portimao test, most of the factory riders will be on road bikes as a familiarisation exercise. They'll be alongside the factory test riders, including Jorge...

Firstly we'll see which really is the best litre sports bike

But also see just how close a standard sports bike really is compared to a MotoGP monster. WSB bikes are 2 or 3 seconds slower, and Superstock machines a further 2 or 3 seconds back. I reckon the road bikes will be well under 10 seconds behind.


MCN would love this group test ride

MotoGP Riders Track Familiarisation (Production machines)

Brad Binder (KTM)

Francesco Bagnaia (Ducati)

Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati)

Pol Espargaro (KTM)

Alex Marquez (Honda)

Jack Miller (Ducati)

Joan Mir (Suzuki)

Takaaki Nakagami (Honda)

Miguel Oliveira (KTM)

Valentino Rossi (Yamaha)

Maverick Viñales (Yamaha)

Johann Zarco (Ducati)

Aleix Espargaro (Aprilia)

what are the KTM lads riding ?

weeksy wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:21 am what are the KTM lads riding ?

You're the KTM king...

Well KTM don't have a modern litre class sports bike, so I'm guessing they'll be on 1290 Super Adventures.

The knobblies will help them get out of the kitty litter if they go of track.

KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:39 am Well KTM don't have a modern litre class sports bike, so I'm guessing they'll be on 1290 Super Adventures.

The knobblies will help them get out of the kitty litter if they go of track.

Exactly, i can't see them being out on RC8s...

weeksy wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:21 am what are the KTM lads riding ?

Oliviera has an R1 sprayed up to look like a KTM !

weeksy wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:21 am what are the KTM lads riding ?

That was my first thought as well!

So what's the biggest cause of the difference in speed?

I'm guessing tyres, brakes and power...in that order?

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:04 pm So what's the biggest cause of the difference in speed?

I'm guessing tyres, brakes and power...in that order?

Power, tyres and brakes.

Yeah MotoGP is pretty dang powerful. IIRC they posted faster speed traps than the F1 at Mugello.

Yorick wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:11 pm

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:04 pm So what's the biggest cause of the difference in speed?

I'm guessing tyres, brakes and power...in that order?

Power, tyres and brakes.

Or brakes, tyres and power.

Someone has to win But it's more likely to be Yorick than me

Weight, don't forget weight (or the lack of it).

KTM boys will use 1290 SDs Shirley? its familiarisation, not set up and those things certainly boogie

I assume KTM adapting a few 1290 SD's with clip ons and fairings would take them out of the loop for being legal for testing as its supposed to be for the riders to get used to the circuit as opposed to improving the bikes and settings as mentioned above ?

Yeah, KTM boys will just use SDs, as GP says it's just for familiarisation, not who can set the fastest lap on a road bike- the non-KTms are just Superstockers , will be fun but will prove 3/5 of feck all IMO

What they really ought to do is get them all out on SS300s , that would be entertaining, , but most imoprtantly would give me a benchmark for our Portimao trip in the new year

Tricky wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:57 pm What they really ought to do is get them all out on SS300s , that would be entertaining, , but most imoprtantly would give me a benchmark for our Portimao trip in the new year

Have you been watching the Junior Supersport Class in BSB?

I reckon it's even more mental than SS300. Best UK National racing imho, those boys (and girls) are proper mental.

KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:14 pm

Tricky wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:57 pm What they really ought to do is get them all out on SS300s , that would be entertaining, , but most imoprtantly would give me a benchmark for our Portimao trip in the new year

Have you been watching the Junior Supersport Class in BSB?

I reckon it's even more mental than SS300. Best UK National racing imho, those boys (and girls) are proper mental.

Yup agree, my favourite class at the moment, great racing

Tricky wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:51 pm

KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:14 pm

Tricky wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:57 pm What they really ought to do is get them all out on SS300s , that would be entertaining, , but most imoprtantly would give me a benchmark for our Portimao trip in the new year

Have you been watching the Junior Supersport Class in BSB?

I reckon it's even more mental than SS300. Best UK National racing imho, those boys (and girls) are proper mental.

Yup agree, my favourite class at the moment, great racing

It made me look at Ninja 400's... then I remembered I was 6"3' and 16 stone.

Up to now
Aleix Espargaro ITA Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 40.88s

He's on a full GP bike as Aprilia are dogshit and could test 365 days a year if they wanted.

Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM Tech3 (Production Bike) +3.882s Still unknown as to what bike.

Best lap:
Jonathan Rea GBR Kawasaki 1m 40.372s (2019)
Fastest race lap:
Jonathan Rea GBR Kawasaki 1m 41.272s

KTM are using R1’s as they don’t make anything good enough, it’s alright ploughing money into racing but they need to make something you can buy off the back of it

Couchy wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:34 pm KTM are using R1’s as they don’t make anything good enough, it’s alright ploughing money into racing but they need to make something you can buy off the back of it

Not their marketing, so they just don't care it seems.