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Racing shitters
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:24 pm
by KungFooBob
I have a history of racing unsuitable, shit, old, slow bikes.
I've raced a air cooled RD250 and an XBR500 with the Earlystocks Club, did three season on an air cooled Ducati 620ie with the Desmo Due club and two seasons as a passenger on a B.E.A.R's K100 outfit with BHR.
I thought I'd hung up my racing leathers, however...
The Earlystocks club have a class for:
Pre 1993 British & European machines 225cc to 675cc & any pre 1993 225cc to 675cc Four Stroke Twin or Single Cylinder machines.
Which means you can race early GPZ500's and GS500's.
I'm kind of half tempted to try and race a GPZ500 (because they didn't change much the class usually cuts off a 1993, but GPZ's you can race up to 2004).
This is a really stupid idea, right?
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:28 pm
by crust
Laverda Montjuic, although the noise test will be a bigger challenge than any competitor.
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:31 pm
by KungFooBob
crust wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:28 pm
Laverda Montjuic, although the noise test will be a bigger challenge than any competitor.
I don't think I'll get one of them for £600 tho'?
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:36 pm
by Skub
Get it done. Tricky's adventures have been a great read.

Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:50 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Ducati 600SS for the win
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:52 pm
by KungFooBob
But you can race them in Desmo Due's B class.
I just think it'll be hilarious griding up on a GPZ500.
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:21 am
by Dickyboy
don't think I'll get one of them for £600 tho'?
Mates was recently valued at £10k for the purposes of a divorce

Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 11:02 am
by Yorick
J.F.D.I.

Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 5:28 pm
by Noggin
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:22 pm
by Tricky
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:24 pm
however...
The Earlystocks club have a class for:
Pre 1993 British & European machines 225cc to 675cc & any pre 1993 225cc to 675cc Four Stroke Twin or Single Cylinder machines.
Which means you can race early GPZ500's and GS500's.
I'm kind of half tempted to try and race a GPZ500 (because they didn't change much the class usually cuts off a 1993, but GPZ's you can race up to 2004).
This is a really stupid idea, right?
Nah, it's an excellent idea IMO

- don't think I've ever seen anyone race a GPZ500, but the motors go reasonably well for what they are so reckon that should be a goer
I'm guessing the 1993 cut-off is to keep CB500s out, as I think the first ones were 94-ish, or are they allowed too?
And if you change your mind / fancy an easier (in theory

) and possibly cheaper option than race-prepping a GPZ , grab yourself one of these beauties and come and join me and your old DD muckers at NG!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/197909578727
or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/197909566972
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:25 pm
by KungFooBob
Tricky wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:22 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:24 pm
however...
The Earlystocks club have a class for:
Pre 1993 British & European machines 225cc to 675cc & any pre 1993 225cc to 675cc Four Stroke Twin or Single Cylinder machines.
Which means you can race early GPZ500's and GS500's.
I'm kind of half tempted to try and race a GPZ500 (because they didn't change much the class usually cuts off a 1993, but GPZ's you can race up to 2004).
This is a really stupid idea, right?
Nah, it's an excellent idea IMO

- don't think I've ever seen anyone race a GPZ500, but the motors go reasonably well for what they are so reckon that should be a goer
I'm guessing the 1993 cut-off is to keep CB500s out, as I think the first ones were 94-ish, or are they allowed too?
And if you change your mind / fancy an easier (in theory

) and possibly cheaper option than race-prepping a GPZ , grab yourself one of these beauties and come and join me and your old DD muckers at NG!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/197909578727
or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/197909566972
Ah, but I'd need wets and warmers to race in Blandits. All that stuff is banned in Earlystocks

Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:04 pm
by Sunny
I reckon you've already made your mind up. But just in case: do it!!!
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:09 pm
by KungFooBob
The inlaws bought an old moho on the cheap with a duff gearbox. They tried to fix it, but it's still not right, but drivable, they've had it years and done bugger all with it. Her indoors reckons they'd let us have it.
I'd never go racing in the UK without a moho. I sold the last one when I stopped racing.
I need my mate Steve Saucepipe to buy in, it's more fun it you can race with your mates.
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 8:03 pm
by Ian
I had a GPz500 for a couple of years it, it bought out the worst in me and thrived on being thrashed. Do it, it should be great fun
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:04 pm
by A_morti
Bought it yet?
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:06 pm
by KungFooBob
No.
I've read a lot about GPZ/EX 500 tuning tho'

Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:29 pm
by A_morti
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:06 pmI've read a lot about GPZ/EX 500 tuning tho'
What do the series rules allow? I assume you'll not be fitting zx636 forks and a turbo, but what is the limit?
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:33 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
What about CX650, Guzzi V65 or BMW R65 ?
There's all manner of horrible Yamaha 4 stroke twins you could use.
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:35 pm
by KungFooBob
Can't change forks much, there's a max diameter limit. You can fit cartridge emulators tho' or forks from the same manufacturer that aren't USD or larger than the diameter limit from a different model (I fitted YPVS forks to my aircooled RD)
IIRC the ACU do not allow any forced induction race bikes, regardless of club/bike.
The Roolz are on the Earlystocks webshite.
Engine tuning is allowed as long as you don't exceed class capacity limits or add extra valves, cylinders, etc..
Re: Racing shitters
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:39 pm
by KungFooBob
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:33 pm
What about CX650, Guzzi V65 or BMW R65 ?
There's all manner of horrible Yamaha 4 stroke twins you could use.
Honda NT600V meets the rules, shaft drive FTW!