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Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:10 am
by mangocrazy
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Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:13 am
by mangocrazy
And two Aprilia motors go pop within a couple of minutes of each other... :shock: :o :thumbdown:

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:49 am
by mangocrazy
MM the only rider into the 1:37s and on a rear tyre with 22 laps on it. Dominant hardly does justice. And WTF was Bagnaia doing sat in his pit box when he should have been out there learning the circuit and putting miles in on a long run? It's beginning to look like he's mentally checked out.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:27 pm
by mangocrazy
Apart from Fabio Q playing MotoGP skittles at the start, that was a deadly dull race at a deadly dull track.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:46 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:27 pm Apart from Fabio Q playing MotoGP skittles at the start, that was a deadly dull race at a deadly dull track.
Yep

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:39 pm
by ChrisW
I'm not particularly excited for tomorrow's race...

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:02 pm
by Skub
I hope they don't come back to this place again. Rubbish,processional racing.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:16 pm
by mangocrazy
The layout of Balaton Park is about as uninspiring and unimaginative as you can get. No less than four (4) chicanes in a 2.5 mile track is brainless. The designers probably thought it would make for plenty of overtaking opportunities, but it doesn't especially with all the aero aids on modern bikes. There aren't even any elevation changes to keep things vaguely interesting, it's just dull, dull, dull.

Compare and contrast with somewhere like Mugello or Portimao. Opposite ends of the spectrum.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:51 pm
by Tricky
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:16 pm The layout of Balaton Park is about as uninspiring and unimaginative as you can get. No less than four (4) chicanes in a 2.5 mile track is brainless. The designers probably thought it would make for plenty of overtaking opportunities, but it doesn't especially with all the aero aids on modern bikes. There aren't even any elevation changes to keep things vaguely interesting, it's just dull, dull, dull.

Compare and contrast with somewhere like Mugello or Portimao. Opposite ends of the spectrum.
I haven't bothered watching MotoGP for a good few rounds now so haven't seen any of it here, but I thought that when the WSB lot were there a few weeks back, shite track that makes for boring racing.

Cadwell BSB is where the good racing is at this week-end- going into qualifying, the top 10 are currently within 0.5 of each other, and top 15 within a second 8-)
The Supersport, Superstock, Sportbike, and usually to a slightly lesser extent, F900s are usually a good watch too :thumbup:

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:50 pm
by Skub
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:16 pm The layout of Balaton Park is about as uninspiring and unimaginative as you can get. No less than four (4) chicanes in a 2.5 mile track is brainless. The designers probably thought it would make for plenty of overtaking opportunities, but it doesn't especially with all the aero aids on modern bikes. There aren't even any elevation changes to keep things vaguely interesting, it's just dull, dull, dull.

Compare and contrast with somewhere like Mugello or Portimao. Opposite ends of the spectrum.
For the big bikes,they worked it out at 9 first gear corners and something like 36 gear changes per lap. Maybe Moto3 will save the day.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:58 pm
by ChrisW
There was a clip of MMarquez short-shifting from 1st to 4th out of a corner. It's a go-kart track for those bikes but, yes, you're right. It''ll make for a decent Moto3 race.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:11 am
by mangocrazy
ChrisW wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:58 pm It's a go-kart track for those bikes but, yes, you're right. It''ll make for a decent Moto3 race.
Not so sure about that - lap 4 of 20 and already it's a procession, with the field really strung out.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:45 am
by .....
Is it my imagination, or are there more marshals than spectators?

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:58 am
by Skub
mangocrazy wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:11 am
ChrisW wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:58 pm It's a go-kart track for those bikes but, yes, you're right. It''ll make for a decent Moto3 race.
Not so sure about that - lap 4 of 20 and already it's a procession, with the field really strung out.
Well,it wasn't a classic Moto3,but probably still miles better that the rest of the day's racing. 18 thousands of a second between first and second. :thumbup:

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:09 am
by mangocrazy
Yes, at least there was some action, even if it was a lot less than we're used to. Quiles seemed the only rider who could recover from a mistake and take back the places he'd lost. In comparison Rueda seemed unable to progress and Quiles is eating into his championship lead...

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:58 am
by mangocrazy
David Alonso, you little beauty!

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:11 pm
by mangocrazy
With all the fuss around Diogo Moreira, I still maintain that David Alonso is The One for the future. Besides being an incredibly likeable character, he has the situational and spatial awareness and the raw speed that only the very best have.

Yeah, I'm a fan. :obscene-drinkingcheers:

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:17 pm
by .....
Columbias 2nd best export atm.
It's taken him a while to get to grips with the M2 bike, but I agree with MGC that (providing he grows a bit) he will be a future premier class front runner.

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:17 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
That was a good race to watch, shows all the talk about how bad the track is bollox

Re: Balaton Park, Hungary MotoGP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:29 pm
by mangocrazy
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:17 pm That was a good race to watch, shows all the talk about how bad the track is bollox
:D That's a pretty rapid flip-flop... :D

Any track with 4 chicanes is a bit of a one-trick pony...