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Recommend me - a car. A small car. Ish.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:07 pm
by fingerpuk
Ok. I need a new car.

“Need” is quite a strong word. Possibly want is more accurate. I had a Porsche, sold it because local roads are now so bad I had to plan routes to avoid bits where the roads has been replaced by rubble. I got a BMW X3 which is nice in that I don’t care about it, but it’s huge. Far too big. I use its size once a year when we go on the UK road trip holiday. Otherwise it does 150 miles a month maybe, and only I’m in it.

I need a car just in case I have to collect kids and my wife is at work. And also because I like driving.

I want something:

- smaller,
- not a 4 cylinder engine,
- not electric,
- is fun,
- is not an SUV unless it’s a heavily modified Jimny or resto modded old truck.
- costs less than £40k.
- has 4 seats. Two doors are fine.
- isn’t touch screen based.
- has to look good.
- doesn’t need car play etc, I use my phone. As long as I can get sound from my phone into the speakers we’re good.

What did I miss?

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:29 pm
by Count Steer
Not 4 cylinders.

More or less? :think:

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:33 pm
by Buckaroo
Forfour :obscene-birdiedoublered:

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:37 pm
by KungFooBob
With those criteria, I'd buy an M4. Probably a convertible.

I think you'll have trouble with the no four pot requirement, everything is four pot these days, even the council spec Boxster/Cayman.

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:37 pm
by fingerpuk
Count Steer wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:29 pm Not 4 cylinders.

More or less? :think:
More. 6 would be lovely. I just think little 4 cylinder engines are a bit shit. Maybe that’s just the massively underpowered things VW use. Our Tiguan is dangerously slow.

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:40 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Count Steer wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:29 pm Not 4 cylinders.

More or less? :think:
2CV it is!

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:55 pm
by fingerpuk
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:37 pm With those criteria, I'd buy an M4. Probably a convertible.

I think you'll have trouble with the no four pot requirement, everything is four pot these days, even the council spec Boxster/Cayman.
I was thinking smaller. Also, again, shit roads so no point with an M4. 2 series maybe. My average speed is under 40mph. Maybe I can accept 4 cylinders, but big ones. 2 litre minimum. And maybe I could accept electric and get the Renault 5. But I like an engine.

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 10:00 pm
by KungFooBob
I've just bought a leccy BMW i4 M50. Its flippin aces, face meltingly fast.

The R5 is cheap as chips, but if you want something teeny bit more special then look at the Alpine A290. It's an R5 that's been breathed on by Alpine.

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 10:10 pm
by MrLongbeard
fingerpuk wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:55 pm Maybe I can accept 4 cylinders, but big ones. 2 litre minimum
In that case a 2.2 diesel civic

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 11:30 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
Lexus LC500.

Just about in budget. But I imagine they have a touchscreen.

M3 and 840i very in budget. Neither meet all your criteria but both nice cars and the convertible 8 Series is a good looking car.

If it were me I'd consider an i8.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:35 am
by ZRX61
fingerpuk wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:37 pm More. 6 would be lovely. I just think little 4 cylinder engines are a bit shit. Maybe that’s just the massively underpowered things VW use. Our Tiguan is dangerously slow.
Had a V6 VW Atlas* loaner for a few days. Absolute fucking turd in the HP dept, I can't begin to imagine how bloody dire a 4 pot VW would be.

*They should rename that crap heap the VW Alas.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:31 am
by Mr. Dazzle
fingerpuk wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:55 pm And maybe I could accept electric and get the Renault 5. But I like an engine.
Judging from peoples reactions in the EV thread I'd say do a test drive, you might be surprised.

It doesn't meet your touch screen criteria though.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:16 am
by Mussels
fingerpuk wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:07 pm Ok. I need a new car.

“Need” is quite a strong word. Possibly want is more accurate. I had a Porsche, sold it because local roads are now so bad I had to plan routes to avoid bits where the roads has been replaced by rubble. I got a BMW X3 which is nice in that I don’t care about it, but it’s huge. Far too big. I use its size once a year when we go on the UK road trip holiday. Otherwise it does 150 miles a month maybe, and only I’m in it.

I need a car just in case I have to collect kids and my wife is at work. And also because I like driving.

I want something:

- smaller,
- not a 4 cylinder engine,
- not electric,
- is fun,
- is not an SUV unless it’s a heavily modified Jimny or resto modded old truck.
- costs less than £40k.
- has 4 seats. Two doors are fine.
- isn’t touch screen based.
- has to look good.
- doesn’t need car play etc, I use my phone. As long as I can get sound from my phone into the speakers we’re good.

What did I miss?
That's a good list, I'd add normal aspiration and manual gearbox as well, that's more important to me than having more than 4 cylinders. I'll be watching the suggestions with interest.
I'm drawn to pre-turbo C63s but they may be as big as an X3.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:21 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Mussels wrote: Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:16 am That's a good list, I'd add normal aspiration and manual gearbox as well, that's more important to me than having more than 4 cylinders. I'll be watching the suggestions with interest.
I'm drawn to pre-turbo C63s but they may be as big as an X3.
Bag yourself a classic. Seats are a strong look though.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-spo ... tted/50174

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:39 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
V8 Mustang

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:41 am
by Rockburner
fingerpuk wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:07 pm Ok. I need a new car.

“Need” is quite a strong word. Possibly want is more accurate. I had a Porsche, sold it because local roads are now so bad I had to plan routes to avoid bits where the roads has been replaced by rubble. I got a BMW X3 which is nice in that I don’t care about it, but it’s huge. Far too big. I use its size once a year when we go on the UK road trip holiday. Otherwise it does 150 miles a month maybe, and only I’m in it.

I need a car just in case I have to collect kids and my wife is at work. And also because I like driving.

I want something:

- smaller,
- not a 4 cylinder engine,
- not electric,
- is fun,
- is not an SUV unless it’s a heavily modified Jimny or resto modded old truck.
- costs less than £40k.
- has 4 seats. Two doors are fine.
- isn’t touch screen based.
- has to look good.
- doesn’t need car play etc, I use my phone. As long as I can get sound from my phone into the speakers we’re good.

What did I miss?
Fiat 500. IIRC they come with twin or triple engines (and a 4-pot).

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:55 am
by Taipan
Audi RSQ3 it’s got 5 cylinders!😎

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:32 am
by KungFooBob
Shame about the four seat thing, or an SLK55 might have fit the bill.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:43 am
by MyLittleStudPony
Aston Martin DB9. Possibly not much smaller than an X3 though. And not cheap to run.

I think a Nissan GTR is in budget too. But again, not that small.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:55 am
by Mr. Dazzle
GTRs are bloody massive! They look fairly 2 door sports car small in photos, but when you see 'em in real life they're huge.

I'd bet an M4 also isn't significantly smaller than an X3, if any smaller at all. The X3 might be chunkier/higher but in terms of overall footprint on the road there's probably not much in it.