Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
- weeksy
- Site Admin
- Posts: 23417
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
- Has thanked: 5450 times
- Been thanked: 13085 times
Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/byb-telem ... ystem.html
i'm of course an advocate of technology and the Shockwiz being top of that list.
But another company is bringing in a whole new level..
But potentially that's getting back to the argument we've had about manual non-assisted motorbikes being more enjoyable vs the modern tech bikes with rider assists like Traction, ABS etc.
I'm guessing in years to come the digital side of MTB will become more and more significant.
i'm of course an advocate of technology and the Shockwiz being top of that list.
But another company is bringing in a whole new level..
But potentially that's getting back to the argument we've had about manual non-assisted motorbikes being more enjoyable vs the modern tech bikes with rider assists like Traction, ABS etc.
I'm guessing in years to come the digital side of MTB will become more and more significant.
- G.P
- Posts: 1944
- Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:12 pm
- Location: Wiltshire
- Has thanked: 2029 times
- Been thanked: 1310 times
Re: Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
All its doing is giving you information though, using that information to improve how you ride is the value.
There's millions of cyclists out there who will buy it because its the latest thing - it falls into the same category as toys for Motorcycles..
There's millions of cyclists out there who will buy it because its the latest thing - it falls into the same category as toys for Motorcycles..
-
- Posts: 1714
- Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:49 am
- Location: Biarritz in Summer, Cornwall In Autumn, Courchevel in Winter
- Has thanked: 1947 times
- Been thanked: 1292 times
Re: Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
In a similar vein, I had a thought while out recently and I'm interested to know if anyone else thinks it would be worthwhile...
2 parts really
Part 1, Alongside all the normal stuff your phone displays while you ride, speed, time etc. I'd also like to know what speed I was doing on that particular section 'last time' and also my best speed along that section. All displayed as live data.
Part 2, sensors in your pedals and on your gears so that you can see how much pressure / effort you are putting in and what gear you are in. Working together with part 1, I think it would make tracking your improvements a lot easier.
2 parts really
Part 1, Alongside all the normal stuff your phone displays while you ride, speed, time etc. I'd also like to know what speed I was doing on that particular section 'last time' and also my best speed along that section. All displayed as live data.
Part 2, sensors in your pedals and on your gears so that you can see how much pressure / effort you are putting in and what gear you are in. Working together with part 1, I think it would make tracking your improvements a lot easier.
- chutzpah
- Posts: 173
- Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:50 am
- Location: Somerset
- Has thanked: 21 times
- Been thanked: 96 times
Re: Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
Part 1 - doesn't some of the GPS units (I'm thinking Garmin) already do that with their link up to live segments on Strava?
Part 2 - I wonder if this one is harder both due to our individual variances (differences in muscle makeup that means my cadence and preferred 'effort' is different to yours etc) plus environmental factors - I imagine all this sort of data is easier when you're on something like a Wattbike in a relatively controlled environment.
Part 2 - I wonder if this one is harder both due to our individual variances (differences in muscle makeup that means my cadence and preferred 'effort' is different to yours etc) plus environmental factors - I imagine all this sort of data is easier when you're on something like a Wattbike in a relatively controlled environment.
-
- Posts: 1714
- Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:49 am
- Location: Biarritz in Summer, Cornwall In Autumn, Courchevel in Winter
- Has thanked: 1947 times
- Been thanked: 1292 times
Re: Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
RE Part 2, I was thinking about being able to compare your individual effort against your 'last/best' effort ?chutzpah wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:29 am Part 1 - doesn't some of the GPS units (I'm thinking Garmin) already do that with their link up to live segments on Strava?
Part 2 - I wonder if this one is harder both due to our individual variances (differences in muscle makeup that means my cadence and preferred 'effort' is different to yours etc) plus environmental factors - I imagine all this sort of data is easier when you're on something like a Wattbike in a relatively controlled environment.
- weeksy
- Site Admin
- Posts: 23417
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
- Has thanked: 5450 times
- Been thanked: 13085 times
Re: Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
A power meter on the pedals won't tell you what gear you were in, but it will obviously tell you the power. The only thing that will define the gear is the rpm which you could also get from a cadence meter. So in theory between the 2 you could know whether you were in the same gear or not for a particular section.
- chutzpah
- Posts: 173
- Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:50 am
- Location: Somerset
- Has thanked: 21 times
- Been thanked: 96 times
Re: Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
I could see how you could start to get electronic shifting to record data such as that, how useful it would really be I'm not convinced. For a time trial you're probably more just worried about current power and speed. For a race, tactics will come in much more. For a day to day hobbyist, simply not dying right now
Re: Telemtry for the masses, the next big thing ?
Electronic shifts *do* transmit the current gear to bike computers. I noticed an option to select that on the Wahoo Bolt I bought recently, wondering hopefully if it could work it out from inputting the gearing and measuring against cadence and speed. But it can't It only works with those fancy electronic shifters.