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Sat in a quaint ye olde worlde pub last tonight having a sneaky Butcombe. Took the dog.....and the wife.
Dog sat there minding her own business (on the lead btw).
Couple come over 'because we love dogs', dog gets a bit growly, which is not a good thing.
We explain that she's a rescue, quite unpredictable and often snappy.
Lady then shoves her hand down to pat our dog and .....yep, she gets bitten. Just the once, more a snap than anything else. However there is now a puddle of blood on the floor.
Landlord not happy, couple not happy, I'm not exactly ecstatic.
Names and phone numbers exchanged, just wondering where we stand should there be repercussions?

FFS. I have no idea of the answer, but FFS people are stupid!!! Even if you hadn't explained the dogs character, WTF would anyone stick their hand in the face of a dog that's growly????

Humans are totally bizarre and somewhat stupid!!!

Can I pet that daaawg!

Have her put down?

The women that is, the dog gave ample warning.

Noggin wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:26 am WTF would anyone stick their hand in the face of a dog that's growly????

Humans are totally bizarre and somewhat stupid!!!

That's nothing, you wanna see how many old dears try and manhandle your children, even when they're crying.

I actually told a bunch of them to fuck off once, they were all cooing at Baby D like she was a dog

And as for your situation, I have no idea. Some people seem to think that all dogs are cute little teddy bears to cuddle.

Guessing, she went straight for the top of the dog's head - which they see as 'being attacked'.

If - if - the owner says it's ok, then back of the hand to be sniffed first, then fuss.

I have four rescues. One Rott x GSD, one Doberman/Corso x Rott, one full Rott and one Malinois.

The Rott x GSD and the Doberman hybrid are quite friendly towards people, the full Rott and the Mali aren't.

People tend to avoid the Rott, but the Mali isn't a fan of anyone except his family.

But I've had people try to pet him then get all offended when he snarls at them, you let your off the lead dog charge at him and it's getting minced.

The few that try with the Rott get a good warning, she's NOT friendly but you get the odd idiot who tries and gets shown the teeth. Hell, she grumbles and snarls at me, it's how she talks, every Rott I've ever owned has been talkative.

Back when I had Frank, my big male Rott, we were walking along when a small child ran over and threw her arms round his neck, kids mother came running over shouting at her daughter to get away from the big nasty dog. Frank just looked at me as if to say "What a fucking idiot."

Horse wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:05 pm Screenshot_20241110-174002~2.png

And as for your situation, I have no idea. Some people seem to think that all dogs are cute little teddy bears to cuddle.

Guessing, she went straight for the top of the dog's head - which they see as 'being attacked'.

If - if - the owner says it's ok, then back of the hand to be sniffed first, then fuss.

I advise people (it's normally kids on the campsite) to stroke under the chin first as the dog can see your hand. If you reach for the top of the head, the dog will tend to try and keep your hand in sight as it goes over.

Animals do seem weirdly tolerant of kids TBF. Our cats will put with cack handed stroking etc from Baby D where we'd get hissed at/swiped.

Sadlonelygit wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:15 am Sat in a quaint ye olde worlde pub last tonight having a sneaky Butcombe. Took the dog.....and the wife.
Dog sat there minding her own business (on the lead btw).
Couple come over 'because we love dogs', dog gets a bit growly, which is not a good thing.
We explain that she's a rescue, quite unpredictable and often snappy.
Lady then shoves her hand down to pat our dog and .....yep, she gets bitten. Just the once, more a snap than anything else. However there is now a puddle of blood on the floor.
Landlord not happy, couple not happy, I'm not exactly ecstatic.
Names and phone numbers exchanged, just wondering where we stand should there be repercussions?

If they love dogs,that wouldn't sit well with reporting one because of their own actions. Maybe the lesson will help them know dogs as well as love them.

I can get a jack handle out of the boot of one of the Prii if it helps.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:38 pm Animals do seem weirdly tolerant of kids TBF. Our cats will put with cack handed stroking etc from Baby D where we'd get hissed at/swiped.

My wolves loved kids. I used to walk them to the school to pick up my kid when she was 5-8. Had a few parents freak out as the pupsters disappeared under a pile of kids.
Was waiting by the gate one day when some old duffer decided to give me a piece of his mind about them. They were just chilling, duffer didn't say anything to the parent with two terriers that were have complete meltdowns growling, barking & trying to attack everyone. He seemed a bit offended when I suggested he fuck off.

The current Minn Pinn doesn't tolerate kids at all. He's very friendly with adults. We tell kids to stay away from him, most listen, a few seem surprised when they get to see his teeth.

Sydney the twat-arse Border Collie wears a hi-viz vest that states, in clear letters each side, 'Do not pet - anxious dog', coz she is.

Some people seem to take that as a challenge, not a warning.

Last year some woman who works at the local bakery did just that, and got a nip for her trouble. It all ended with an apology and understanding, as she was a 'dog person' and probably should have heeded the growl, but I do wonder how that could have ended had common sense not prevailed.

Re the OP, if you've given fair warning and it's ignored...

Woman had fair warning from your dog and you and then proceeded to do something stupid.

You gave fair warning. She doesn't have any right to touch your dog. Does she drive through red lights, or touch live cables? Probably not. So the problem was entirely of her own making. End of.

Rottie and a shitzoo. Wife looks after the grandkid three days a week and i do not trust the grumpy shitzoo one little bit as he seems to hate kids and loud things. The rottie loves her and licks her to death until she drops some food We were in a pub in the edge of the peak district a few month back and everyone who wanted to pet the rottie was told to go for it and she was loving the attention. They all got a warning about the grumpy shitzoo and he was left alone. We gave him treats since he was being left out.

I do always find it interesting that adults think it's ok to touch strangers dogs, kids and even pregnant womens bellies without asking!!!! WTAF??!!

I did grow up with dogs in the house, and on a farm, so I guess I have a different outlook about animals in general and dogs especially.

But seriously, if you see a dog you want to pet, just ask if it's ok. If you go for it and get a warning from owner and dog and you don't stop, you're thick as shit and deserve the nip/bite.

I know most stupid humans don't see things that way, but FFS they should!!


There are loads of dogs up here and most of them are off the lead. Even if one comes up to see me I'll check with the owner if it's one I don't know (even if I have call/shout a bit of distance) to make sure the dog is ok to pet. It just makes sense. The bike school I worked out last summer had the most gorgeous german shepherd that hated being touched. But she'd run up to say hello to me every morning which in most dogs means they want a fuss! I just had to talk to her and keep my hands to myself and she was happy!! But as someone said above, even when she had a jacket on saying do not touch, people would try anyway and get a growl or a snap (she didn't rush up to strangers, it was only because I was there every day!)

People in general are stupid!!

Your dog biting someone puts you in the wrong.

You could have muzzled it, but didn’t.

“Aw but the woman did this, the woman did that!”

“These alleged actions by my client are disputed and of little relevance anyway.

What is not in dispute is that your dog, unmuzzled, in your care in a public place and known by you to be unstable, attacked and injured my client.”

JackyJoll wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:03 am Your dog biting someone puts you in the wrong.

You could have muzzled it, but didn’t.

“Aw but the woman did this, the woman did that!”

“These alleged actions by my client are disputed and of little relevance anyway.

What is not in dispute is that your dog, unmuzzled, in your care in a public place and known by you to be unstable, attacked and injured my client.”

Here's a first - agreeing with JackyJoll
All of this is said as a dog owner.

If you dog is volatile - it is up to you to keep it away from situations where it might attack.
If it is a rescue - and highly defensive, don't take it to the pub!
If it does it all the time you have to muzzle it - the dog is you reposibilty and no-one elses. You cannot control what members of the public will do - generally they are stupid. If you work on that basis ( a bit like assuming all car drivers are trying to kill you on a motirbike) then you can manage the situation.
Next advice ( beacuse I have been there ) get you dog trained. There are a number of people out there who will show you how to make you dog not reative in such situations - or advise you not to put it in those situations.
Get the dog a bright yellow coat that say " Nervous Dog" or the like
https://neondog.co.uk/gb/dog-coats/355- ... acket.html
You were fortunate that it bite a woman and not a 2 year old, or else the dog would be getting put down.
It's not everyone else's fault for being idiots - they just are