Classic Triumph Bonneville
-
- Posts: 13954
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
- Location: Milton Keynes
- Has thanked: 2552 times
- Been thanked: 6257 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
The red line is a teeny tiny fuel path that runs to downstream of the slide. Its got a screw (not shown in that pic) which you adjust to change how much fuel 'bypasses' the slide and hence adjusts the mixture when the throttle is shut.
-
- Posts: 13954
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
- Location: Milton Keynes
- Has thanked: 2552 times
- Been thanked: 6257 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
So if I'm reading this right...N58R would be equivalent to about 9.something in NGK world. Whereas I'm running 8s. So colder plugs might be an idea.
-
- Posts: 3731
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm
- Has thanked: 261 times
- Been thanked: 1266 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
The needle jet size and the cutaway size operate at more or less the same throttle range: just off idle.
Needle clip position has a big influence on mixture at “normal” road riding throttle opening range.
I’m not going to go back through the thread, but I may already have mentioned fuel flow from the tank into the float bowls. It’s often an issue when you try to go fast on an old 650.
You increase main jet size and test at full throttle until you know it’s too big, then reduce to correct. Smarter people than us sorted that out before 1930. You can’t do these tests if flow from the tank is restricted.
It would not be surprising if you needed a colder plug than NGK 8.
Needle clip position has a big influence on mixture at “normal” road riding throttle opening range.
I’m not going to go back through the thread, but I may already have mentioned fuel flow from the tank into the float bowls. It’s often an issue when you try to go fast on an old 650.
You increase main jet size and test at full throttle until you know it’s too big, then reduce to correct. Smarter people than us sorted that out before 1930. You can’t do these tests if flow from the tank is restricted.
It would not be surprising if you needed a colder plug than NGK 8.
-
- Posts: 3731
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm
- Has thanked: 261 times
- Been thanked: 1266 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
The space between the needle and the needle jet is smaller than the main jet, until the needle is lifted out of the needle jet.
-
- Posts: 3731
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm
- Has thanked: 261 times
- Been thanked: 1266 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
The picture is misleading. The air bleed (or compensation circuit) is a drilling from the bottom centre of the bellmouth, parallel to the pilot circuit drilling which is off to one side.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:00 pm The red line is an air bleed isn't it, on a Mikuni that's controlled by an air jet in some carbs.
-
- Posts: 13954
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
- Location: Milton Keynes
- Has thanked: 2552 times
- Been thanked: 6257 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
Ita got inline filters which it didn't have before, they probably knock the flow a little. I could try opening both fuel taps, if that doesn't fix it I doubt its flow?
Tickles pretty fast, maybe 2 or 3s.
Tickles pretty fast, maybe 2 or 3s.
-
- Posts: 3731
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm
- Has thanked: 261 times
- Been thanked: 1266 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
It should flow nearly 200 ml/minute from the bottom of each float bowl, at the same time. You can measure (or you can guess or assume or hope for the best).
The handbook recommended opening both taps if you wanted to go fast.
The handbook recommended opening both taps if you wanted to go fast.
- Rockburner
- Posts: 4379
- Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:06 am
- Location: Hiding in your blind spot
- Has thanked: 7819 times
- Been thanked: 2529 times
- KungFooBob
- Posts: 14218
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
- Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
- Has thanked: 539 times
- Been thanked: 7535 times
-
- Posts: 13954
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
- Location: Milton Keynes
- Has thanked: 2552 times
- Been thanked: 6257 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
One is the reserve. I don't have a fuel gauge or a working odometer, so....
I actually needed to use it the other day too! I thought I was breaking down, but no, just running out of fuel
- Cousin Jack
- Posts: 4465
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:36 pm
- Location: Down in the Duchy
- Has thanked: 2554 times
- Been thanked: 2287 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
So did BSAs, Matchlesses, Nortons, Enfieds, et al.
Cornish Tart #1
Remember An Gof!
Remember An Gof!
-
- Posts: 13954
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
- Location: Milton Keynes
- Has thanked: 2552 times
- Been thanked: 6257 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
I've already agreed with work that I can leave it in the bike parking outside the front door, but I need to put some of that spill kit mat underneath it
-
- Posts: 3731
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm
- Has thanked: 261 times
- Been thanked: 1266 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
A redundant baking tray.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:33 am I've already agreed with work that I can leave it in the bike parking outside the front door, but I need to put some of that spill kit mat underneath it
-
- Posts: 3189
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:45 pm
- Location: RoI
- Has thanked: 1264 times
- Been thanked: 1188 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
They dont leak oil, they sweat powerCousin Jack wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:30 amSo did BSAs, Matchlesses, Nortons, Enfieds, et al.
- Cousin Jack
- Posts: 4465
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:36 pm
- Location: Down in the Duchy
- Has thanked: 2554 times
- Been thanked: 2287 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
My BSA allegedly had 12 horse power. 3 of the horses were dead, 2 were lame, and the remainder were severely asthmatic.
Sweat power ? Wishful thinking!
Cornish Tart #1
Remember An Gof!
Remember An Gof!
-
- Posts: 3731
- Joined: Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm
- Has thanked: 261 times
- Been thanked: 1266 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
Use very expensive synthetic oil.
It gives you an incentive to fix the leaks.
It gives you an incentive to fix the leaks.
-
- Posts: 13954
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
- Location: Milton Keynes
- Has thanked: 2552 times
- Been thanked: 6257 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
I actually went for an overtake yesterday! Didn't even stop to consider, just pulled out and cracked the throttle like I was on a modern bikeCousin Jack wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:51 pmMy BSA allegedly had 12 horse power. 3 of the horses were dead, 2 were lame, and the remainder were severely asthmatic.
Sweat power ? Wishful thinking!
- KungFooBob
- Posts: 14218
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
- Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
- Has thanked: 539 times
- Been thanked: 7535 times
- Skub
- Posts: 12171
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
- Location: Norn Iron
- Has thanked: 9834 times
- Been thanked: 10147 times
Re: Classic Triumph Bonneville
Back when we were apprentices,matey and I used to commute two up on a CB125 long past it's best. On one notable occasion I moved to overtake a bus sitting at the bus stop. The bus began to move off when I was about halfway down it's length,but as the bus accelerated,the little 125 hadn't the zip to complete the manoeuvre,so I had to fall back behind and endure the schoolkids giving us the wanker sign and laughing their tits off.
Oh the shame,it lingers still.
Oh the shame,it lingers still.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955