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Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:37 am
by weeksy
Potter wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:35 am the insertion of something of a different nature into something else.
Anal then ?

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:27 am
by weeksy
Potter wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:21 am
weeksy wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:37 am
Anal then ?
You offering? :lol:
only if i can swim in the pool between sessions :)

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:39 am
by Horse
weeksy wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:27 am
Potter wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:21 am
weeksy wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:37 am
Anal then ?
You offering? :lol:
only if i can swim in the pool between sessions :)
Keep your mouth closed and still be able to take in enough water to sink :D

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:57 pm
by slowsider
Potter wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:56 am
slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:27 pm
Wouldn't you be better using a cartoon about interpolation?
Extrapolation - extend the application of (a method or conclusion) to an unknown situation by assuming that existing trends will continue...

I think that fits for compound annual growth rates made up by someone trying to get attention. You take one company in one month, look at growth, then times it by twelve, then times it by the number of companies in that sector, then times it by ten years, then add some x-factors - and then you have a figure to say that's what the market potential is in ten years...and you can call it CAGR like it's a fact.

Have you seen how marketers extrapolate their figures? "You've had $50m worth of marketing value this year, but you only spent seven pence" - "Oh, how do you work that out?" - there then follows the most extraordinary calculations that appear to consider everything on the planet except whether sales went up or down.

No one questions this shit, people literally make shit up and it often doesn't even get questioned.
Like Elon Musk said, there are way too many MBA type people in business.
I thought cagr was a retrospective smoothing of several years figures to illustrate what steady growth rate would achieve the same end result?. So you look within the figures you have, rather than forecast (or bullshit, like marketers) on the basis that the trend would continue.
I couldn't find a cartoon to show you :(, but the digressions have been amusing :D

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:05 pm
by Taipan
I took the day off today as I broke my car and I wanted to check soemthings on the bike, change the front pads etc. First thing that has BMP is it keeps raining and the second my wife, ever the opportunist, text me to say if you can't do anything outside because of the rain can you do blah blah blah instead! :hmmm: :roll:

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:18 pm
by Druid
Taipan wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:05 pm I took the day off today as I broke my car and I wanted to check soemthings on the bike, change the front pads etc. First thing that has BMP is it keeps raining and the second my wife, ever the opportunist, text me to say if you can't do anything outside because of the rain can you do blah blah blah instead! :hmmm: :roll:
I have the week off and because the forecast for today was for rain I had some jobs indoors lined up. However it's been dry and sunny all day so I've been outside doing jobs on the bike and the van :)

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am
by Trinity765
Women complaining about equal rights and sexism. Some women are sexist against women too. Being a biker in a big office some women have made some very sexist comments to me, automatically assuming that their husband/boyfriend knows more about bikes and riding than I do, why? Meanwhile, I've seen a lot of women do very well, get to the top of their game in the corporate race and they never played the sexism card - they were too busy getting on with it.

I do not feel unfairly treated as a women. I've succeeded when I've tried and I've failed when I've still got things to learn - but I never thought my gender had anything to do with it.

I heard a women at work saying "Women are as physically strong as men". They're not - it's called testosterone. I'll be calling her next time I drop my bike.

I'm not saying sexism doesn't exist, rather that it exists in women as well as men and I'm fed up with men getting the blame for everything :P

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:04 am
by slowsider
Sing it, sister :thumbup:

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:46 am
by Horse
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am I do not feel unfairly treated as a women. I've succeeded when I've tried and I've failed when I've still got things to learn - but I never thought my gender had anything to do with it.
Attitudes have changed. Early in my working life, I had a female team leader. Someone said to me "I couldn't work for a woman!" 30 years later, different company, female line manager, divisional director and CEO. But, sadly, I doubt that acceptance is anywhere near universal.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:08 am
by slowsider
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am

I heard a women at work saying "Women are as physically strong as men". They're not - it's called testosterone. I'll be calling her next time I drop my bike.

I'm not saying sexism doesn't exist, rather that it exists in women as well as men and I'm fed up with men getting the blame for everything :P
I'm getting on and my joints creak. Testosterone doesn't make up for that: when I want heavy stuff lifted I call my daughters, both former athletes who have competed internationally. No question they are stronger than me.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:10 am
by Mussels
Horse wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:46 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am I do not feel unfairly treated as a women. I've succeeded when I've tried and I've failed when I've still got things to learn - but I never thought my gender had anything to do with it.
Attitudes have changed. Early in my working life, I had a female team leader. Someone said to me "I couldn't work for a woman!" 30 years later, different company, female line manager, divisional director and CEO. But, sadly, I doubt that acceptance is anywhere near universal.
There are probably more women saying they couldn't work for a man, modern sexist arguments seem very one sided and sexist.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:11 am
by weeksy
slowsider wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:08 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am

I heard a women at work saying "Women are as physically strong as men". They're not - it's called testosterone. I'll be calling her next time I drop my bike.

I'm not saying sexism doesn't exist, rather that it exists in women as well as men and I'm fed up with men getting the blame for everything :P
I'm getting on and my joints creak. Testosterone doesn't make up for that: when I want heavy stuff lifted I call my daughters, both former athletes who have competed internationally. No question they are stronger than me.
LOL that's hardly representational of most though, you're nearly 100 and way past your sell by date, they're obviously fit and athletic...

Silly to pick a couple of instances to argue your case, lets say women are not as strong as men in 99% of instances then.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:15 am
by slowsider
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:11 am
slowsider wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:08 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am

I heard a women at work saying "Women are as physically strong as men". They're not - it's called testosterone. I'll be calling her next time I drop my bike.

I'm not saying sexism doesn't exist, rather that it exists in women as well as men and I'm fed up with men getting the blame for everything :P
I'm getting on and my joints creak. Testosterone doesn't make up for that: when I want heavy stuff lifted I call my daughters, both former athletes who have competed internationally. No question they are stronger than me.
LOL that's hardly representational of most though, you're nearly 100 and way past your sell by date, they're obviously fit and athletic...

Silly to pick a couple of instances to argue your case, lets say women are not as strong as men in 99% of instances then.
:angry-cussingblack:
But most times it doesn't matter.

https://www.womenridersnow.com/pages/Bi ... nique.aspx

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:25 am
by Trinity765
Horse wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:46 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am I do not feel unfairly treated as a women. I've succeeded when I've tried and I've failed when I've still got things to learn - but I never thought my gender had anything to do with it.
Attitudes have changed. Early in my working life, I had a female team leader. Someone said to me "I couldn't work for a woman!" 30 years later, different company, female line manager, divisional director and CEO. But, sadly, I doubt that acceptance is anywhere near universal.
Yes. They have changed and for the better. What annoys me is the women who go on about equal rights but fail to see their own sexism. It's a minefield at the moment so treading very slowly :1 I have heard many comments from women that make me cringe. In an open forum at work, with Q&As to the big cheeses, a women asked why women were underrepresented at the top. She'd been at the company five minutes. In the fifteen years I'd been there there had been plenty of women at the top. The big cheese explained that he'd hire the best person for the job regardless of gender and I believed him as you'd be a fool not to.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:31 am
by Saga Lout
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:25 am<snip>

... a women asked why women were underrepresented at the top. She'd been at the company five minutes. In the fifteen years I'd been there there had been plenty of women at the top. The big cheese explained that he'd hire the best person for the job regardless of gender and I believed him as you'd be a fool not to.
And if he didn't, somebody else would and that company would gain an advantage.

I saw a thing on that interweb thingy, a meme I think you call it, "Women, just like men only cheaper". If that were true any company that insisted on hiring a man instead of a woman would quickly go out of business.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:27 pm
by Bike Breaker
Saga Lout wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:31 amI saw a thing on that interweb thingy, a meme I think you call it, "Women, just like men only cheaper".
Tell that to a man who lets his woman use his credit card. :lol:

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:43 pm
by Trinity765
Saga Lout wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:31 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:25 am<snip>

... a women asked why women were underrepresented at the top. She'd been at the company five minutes. In the fifteen years I'd been there there had been plenty of women at the top. The big cheese explained that he'd hire the best person for the job regardless of gender and I believed him as you'd be a fool not to.
And if he didn't, somebody else would and that company would gain an advantage.

I saw a thing on that interweb thingy, a meme I think you call it, "Women, just like men only cheaper". If that were true any company that insisted on hiring a man instead of a woman would quickly go out of business.
I grew up around that kind of joke. My Dad stuck and advert from a magazine on a wall (temporarily) at home when I was young, just to wind my Mum up. The advert read "At last someone has designed a turbo for a women". It was an advert for the latest Hoover and he thought that it was hilarious. The point is, it was a joke and I knew it was a joke (by him, shame on Hoover). It doesn't bother me - men making a sexist remark and then running for cover - it's all for fun. Is that wrong? Someone will think so :obscene-birdiedoublered:

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:18 pm
by slowsider
Bike Breaker wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:27 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:31 amI saw a thing on that interweb thingy, a meme I think you call it, "Women, just like men only cheaper".
Tell that to a man who lets his woman use his credit card. :lol:
ISWYDT :)

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:25 pm
by cheb
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:43 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:31 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:25 am<snip>

... a women asked why women were underrepresented at the top. She'd been at the company five minutes. In the fifteen years I'd been there there had been plenty of women at the top. The big cheese explained that he'd hire the best person for the job regardless of gender and I believed him as you'd be a fool not to.
And if he didn't, somebody else would and that company would gain an advantage.

I saw a thing on that interweb thingy, a meme I think you call it, "Women, just like men only cheaper". If that were true any company that insisted on hiring a man instead of a woman would quickly go out of business.
I grew up around that kind of joke. My Dad stuck and advert from a magazine on a wall (temporarily) at home when I was young, just to wind my Mum up. The advert read "At last someone has designed a turbo for a women". It was an advert for the latest Hoover and he thought that it was hilarious. The point is, it was a joke and I knew it was a joke (by him, shame on Hoover). It doesn't bother me - men making a sexist remark and then running for cover - it's all for fun. Is that wrong? Someone will think so :obscene-birdiedoublered:
But did your mum find it funny?

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:35 pm
by cheb
Manufacturers who don't list useful info about their products on their website. I'd like to know the output shaft specs for a Robin* EY15D, the specs mention shaft orientation but not diameter nor taper.

* I can now add Subaru to the list of manufacturers whose engines I have owned.