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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:01 pm
by cheb
Wasn't that the system mounted underneath heavy lorries and coaches?
https://www.telma.com/
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:02 pm
by Mussels
They need to build risk assessment into satnavs taking expected speeds, loads and gradients into account.
Big descent after 50 miles but the battery will not exceed 90% by the time you get to the bottom as long as you don't recharge at any of the 3 previous charging stations. This is followed by a long climb and to make the summit the battery must be topped off to a minimum of 80% between these two points.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:06 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
They've already started doing stuff like that. SatNav informed vehicle settings have been around for a while - top spec Mercs and Beemers will pre-emptively change down when approaching hills and bends for example so it's less obvious to the passengers.
I'd be very very surprised if EVs are not already well along the road towards changing the way they operate based on what's coming up on the route.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:57 pm
by Mussels
Potter wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:38 pm
The biggest issue I have with ICE at the moment is the complexity and the maintenance, I'm tired of rebuilding them, my boat engine seems to break for fun, I look forward to have an electric motor where you just send it away and put another one in if it breaks.
Better than having the batteries sink your boat.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:00 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Potter wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:38 pm
The biggest issue I have with ICE at the moment is the complexity and the maintenance, I'm tired of rebuilding them, my boat engine seems to break for fun, I look forward to have an electric motor where you just send it away and put another one in if it breaks.
Modern electric motors are obviously fantastically complicated. But crucially the vast majority of the complexity is in stuff which doesn't move. And well all know how much the home mechanic loves dealing with electrical and software issues!
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:13 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Yeah agreed.
Trouble is, most EVs don't have motors alone, they have so called "Electric Drive Units" which also contain all the gears and bearings etc. Theyre only ever gonna get more and more integrated.
So you won't be able to take the motor out....you'll be taking the whole back axle out. I imagine in a few years times there will be independent garages offering rebuild/refurb services.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:19 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
It means you don't need two casings, two sets of bearings and so on. Everything's lighter, smaller and cheaper.
Bear in mind that we get pushed to shave 2mm off of the outer casing size....
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:20 pm
by David
Have a look at Rich Rebuilds on youtube...he does a lot with Tesla stuff.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:01 pm
by Couchy
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:06 pm
They've already started doing stuff like that. SatNav informed vehicle settings have been around for a while - top spec Mercs and Beemers will pre-emptively change down when approaching hills and bends for example so it's less obvious to the passengers.
I'd be very very surprised if EVs are not already well along the road towards changing the way they operate based on what's coming up on the route.
Our Merc in electric mode reads the road, as I let off the accelerator approaching a corner or roundabout the amount of regen increases as you get closer, takes some getting used too and manually adjusting regen as you drive with the paddles means you rarely need to use the actual brakes. The harder you come off the accelerator too the harder the car stops on regen alone. Can get another 10-15% range doing it properly

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:38 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Aye....the old "one pedal" driving
The few times I've driven an EV around MK I've found "super eco mode" the best for getting around quickly. Maximum regen on the pedal.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:51 pm
by demographic
Pretty sure I've seen stuff on the fully charged show about them using electric motors on boats round Amsterdam and also on a ferry near Stockholm.
The ferry was just for something like a 20 minute journey and had some massive cables to charge it up but hell, it was a ferry so pretty massive its self.
Neither of them had solar panels admittedly but the launch round Amsterdam was just nice and quiet.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:54 am
by slowsider
Potter wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:30 am
I think people would want a means of charging the batteries at sea because you often don't know how long you might need to motor for
nice little diesel engine should do it...
Oh...
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:31 am
by Horse
slowsider wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:54 am
Potter wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:30 am
I think people would want a means of charging the batteries at sea because you often don't know how long you might need to motor for
nice little diesel engine should do it...
Oh...
Pedalo conversion?
But a man of Potter's means can afford to buy a paddle. Or take along a pair of whores to do the rowing.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:03 am
by slowsider
Horse wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:31 am
slowsider wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:54 am
Potter wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:30 am
I think people would want a means of charging the batteries at sea because you often don't know how long you might need to motor for
nice little diesel engine should do it...
Oh...
Pedalo conversion?
But a man of Potter's means can afford to buy a paddle. Or take along a pair of whores to do the rowing.
That might wear out his rowlocks.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
by David
demographic wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:51 pm
Pretty sure I've seen stuff on the fully charged show about them using electric motors on boats round Amsterdam and also on a ferry near Stockholm.
The ferry was just for something like a 20 minute journey and had some massive cables to charge it up but hell, it was a ferry so pretty massive its self.
Neither of them had solar panels admittedly but the launch round Amsterdam was just nice and quiet.
Electric launches are quite common around Holland in general.
Appropo of being a dinosaur.....I was in the small lock at Zandaam a while back ( must have been about 4 years ago now!) in Mascotte, which has a 475 Daf....we were in with a few other boats some quite small day launches. The keeper calked me out first, so i opened the throttle to get her moving (27 tons....) and looked starboard to see the lady in the launch along side get a face full of diesel. ...these old dafs choke up a bit on idle.....
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:36 am
by Docca

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Quick spin this morning. 0-60 in under 5 seconds. It feels quick.
Loads of gadgets and car sim etc. So far so good.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:43 pm
by David
Bit early in the year to have the radiator muff fitted.....
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:10 pm
by slowsider
Is that green plate tag a regulatory thing? Saw lots when I was last over
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:16 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
My guess - and it's just a guess - is so that it's easy to tell for parking reasons. Lots of places now have free/different parking for EVs and you can't expect enforcement to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of every EV, particularly when you can get electric and non-electric versions of the same model. So you make the plates green, then you can easily tell who's allowed to use the free parking.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:39 pm
by Docca
Yes- it’s a choice but pretty much what Dazzle described. It was explained to me like this from the Volvo dealership ( you order the car online btw):
“ it helps distinguish proper EV to those cunts driving hybrids and is important as more and more services prioritise their charging stations to full EV first”