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Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:33 am
by Noggin
Jody wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:07 pm
Would you be surprised to hear that I've injured myself again !?
An whole cup of boiling hot tea thrown over myself.
So I'm on the sofa cycling tea towels between my foot and a bowl of ice water
FFS Jody!!! I've told you already, ditch the bloody FUF crown - it's bad enough for those used to it, but I think you need to send it back now as three times is enough
Heal well soon

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:45 pm
by Yorick
Oops.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:55 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
v8-powered wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:12 pm
New bloody work app called Jira - now every fooker can assign actions to you even if not in the same department and prioritise them. Crap....
Are you familiar with the term "arms race"?

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:03 pm
by v8-powered
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:55 pm
v8-powered wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:12 pm
New bloody work app called Jira - now every fooker can assign actions to you even if not in the same department and prioritise them. Crap....
Are you familiar with the term "arms race"?
We do have a guy with only 1 arm, so we've lost already.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:54 pm
by McNab
Automated calls that are conversational in tone, pretending to be real people.
I just had a call that went thus:
"Hi my name is David from wherever windows and doors. How are you today? All good?"
I give it my standard test reply " I'm fine thanks. How are you?"
'David' fails the test "The reason for my call..." Click...brrrrr.. as I hang up.
A real person would have replied along the lines of "I'm good thanks. The reason for my call..." but the automated systems don't allow for that. I'm guessing at some point AI will be employed to mimic that sort of thing much better.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:30 pm
by Count Steer
McNab wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:54 pm
Automated calls that are conversational in tone, pretending to be real people.
I just had a call that went thus:
"Hi my name is David from wherever windows and doors. How are you today? All good?"
I give it my standard test reply " I'm fine thanks. How are you?"
'David' fails the test "The reason for my call..." Click...brrrrr.. as I hang up.
A real person would have replied along the lines of "I'm good thanks. The reason for my call..." but the automated systems don't allow for that. I'm guessing at some point AI will be employed to mimic that sort of thing much better.
My favourite response is 'Hello, who are you calling?' If it or they don't know, *click* .
(Not that we get many but the automated dial stuff is getting a bit more frequent).
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:19 pm
by Saga Lout
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:30 pm
My favourite response is 'Hello, who are you calling?' If it or they don't know, *click* .
(Not that we get many but the automated dial stuff is getting a bit more frequent).
I get a lot of autodial spam calls that just hang up as soon as I answer. I'm not sure what they get out of it.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:23 pm
by McNab
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:19 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:30 pm
My favourite response is 'Hello, who are you calling?' If it or they don't know, *click* .
(Not that we get many but the automated dial stuff is getting a bit more frequent).
I get a lot of autodial spam calls that just hang up as soon as I answer. I'm not sure what they get out of it.
I think those ones are automatically putting out calls and when answered then they are connected to an agent. If no agent is available they hang up.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:29 pm
by Count Steer
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:19 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:30 pm
My favourite response is 'Hello, who are you calling?' If it or they don't know, *click* .
(Not that we get many but the automated dial stuff is getting a bit more frequent).
I get a lot of autodial spam calls that just hang up as soon as I answer. I'm not sure what they get out of it.
The only thing I can think of is that they create a list of numbers that get a response then sell them on to other spammers who save time not dialling unresponsive numbers.
Particularly useful for confirming stuff like ex-directory lines, maybe.
(At our previous place, my wife's employers put a second, business, line in and we didn't get a single spam call on it. We went ex-directory on the home line and that eventually reduced them too so we did the same when we moved. Now, I guess it's just autodial crap that gets through).
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:54 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:29 pm
The only thing I can think of is that they create a list of numbers that get a response then sell them on to other spammers
That ^.
Just dial every number, see which ones pick up.
I can't believe you people actually
answer the spam calls

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:00 pm
by KungFooBob
I don't answer any calls, I let my voicemail screen them.
Also, my phone Googles the number and tells me who it is within 3 seconds of it ringing.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:23 pm
by Newey
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:54 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:29 pm
The only thing I can think of is that they create a list of numbers that get a response then sell them on to other spammers
That ^.
Just dial every number, see which ones pick up.
I can't believe you people actually
answer the spam calls
If the voicemail kicks in is that counted as an answer? 99% of phones have a voicemail attached to them so in effect if we answer or let VM answer the scammer thinks it's a good one, possibly lol
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:29 pm
by Count Steer
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:54 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:29 pm
The only thing I can think of is that they create a list of numbers that get a response then sell them on to other spammers
That ^.
Just dial every number, see which ones pick up.
I can't believe you people actually
answer the spam calls
Only when they spoof the number and it looks local so it could be the optician or a neighbour etc but my phone usually comes up with 'Nuisance?' for most.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:45 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
KungFooBob wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:00 pm
I don't answer any calls
No-one I know would actually call me, like some kind of cave man.

Not even my Mum.
If my phone actually rings its almost certainly spam.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 pm
by Sunny
I've had my landline unplugged for the last two years as the only calls we ever got (caught by the answer phone), were spam auto-diallers.
I plugged it back in at the weekend as an experiment to see if we've fallen off their lists

inspired by the fact we got a new EE router recently which came with some kind of digital phone adaptor thing.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:51 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
We don't even have a landline any more. I still have my Bang and Olufsen phone as decor though

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:53 pm
by ChrisW
I was filling out a fixtures and fittings form for a house sale recently and the 'telephone receiver - included / excluded / not present' question felt very, very archaic.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:12 pm
by Sunny
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:51 pm
We don't even have a landline any more. I still have my Bang and Olufsen phone as decor though
I was told it's good for your credit rating. Only reason I've kept it.
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:14 pm
by KungFooBob
I can only get FTTC at the moment, so I have to keep the land line a little longer... when have BT got the end of copper slated for?
Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:18 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Sunny wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:12 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:51 pm
We don't even have a landline any more. I still have my Bang and Olufsen phone as decor though
I was told it's good for your credit rating.
Never heard that one!
I don't have landline but I have a perfect credit score, so I must be sufficiently boring via other routes.