demographic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:07 am
Dunno, but he did mention investigating government ministers corruption and holding them to account.
That is simply lies coming out of his mouth.
A rant of how corrupt the political system is would just be white noise, but I think we both know that no one is getting properly held to account, any time ever.
irie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:12 pm
So what is Israel going to do in Northern Gaza after (presumably) civilians have evacuated to the south?
What do you think was Hamas’s game plan? Hamas deliberately caused maximum horror, such as live-streaming atrocities and cutting babies’ throats. Hamas knew Israel would react with angry force. Why would Hamas want to cause this (entirely predictable) Israeli reaction? Iranian involvement?
It’s desperately sad for the innocent civilians on all sides.
irie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:12 pm
So what is Israel going to do in Northern Gaza after (presumably) civilians have evacuated to the south?
What do you think was Hamas’s game plan? Hamas deliberately caused maximum horror, such as live-streaming atrocities and cutting babies’ throats. Hamas knew Israel would react with angry force. Why would Hamas want to cause this (entirely predictable) Israeli reaction? Iranian involvement?
It’s desperately sad for the innocent civilians on all sides.
As you suggest, maybe they’re dreaming that other Arabs will join in.
Perhaps, according to their heat-oppressed brain, any harassment of their divinely ordinated enemy is a worthwhile end in itself and the crueller the better. If Israel replies by killing them and many of their friends and knocking their towns over, that’s just obvious proof that Israel is evil and must be attacked again.
If that lot just sounds silly to you, maybe it’s because you’re not a stupid brainwashed fanatic.
Doesn’t make their aims look any better to be fair.
In what way?
If, for example, the 'rest of the world' decided that England 'belonged' to the, oh I dunno, the Catholics or the Baptists and they decided that only they could live there so they kettled the rest of us in, say, Rutland and Cornwall and every time anyone fought back and tried to rectify the injustice they bombed the shit out of all of us with the support of the 'rest of the world' . How would you react (if you weren't one of the new chosen few)?
Doesn’t make their aims look any better to be fair.
In what way?
If, for example, the 'rest of the world' decided that England 'belonged' to the, oh I dunno, the Catholics or the Baptists and they decided that only they could live there so they kettled the rest of us in, say, Rutland and Cornwall and every time anyone fought back and tried to rectify the injustice they bombed the shit out of all of us with the support of the 'rest of the world' . How would you react (if you weren't one of the new chosen few)?
irie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:08 pm
How would you react if you lived in Devon, for example?
Slightly less bothered than if I'd lived in Cornwall?
(Tempted to nibble away at the border with a few 'settlements' into productive land perhaps if I was an expansionist Baptist/Catholic Devonian wishing to extinguish the annoying neighbours perhaps).
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
Doesn’t make their aims look any better to be fair.
In what way?
If, for example, the 'rest of the world' decided that England 'belonged' to the, oh I dunno, the Catholics or the Baptists and they decided that only they could live there so they kettled the rest of us in, say, Rutland and Cornwall and every time anyone fought back and tried to rectify the injustice they bombed the shit out of all of us with the support of the 'rest of the world' . How would you react (if you weren't one of the new chosen few)?
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irie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:12 pm
So what is Israel going to do in Northern Gaza after (presumably) civilians have evacuated to the south?
What do you think was Hamas’s game plan? Hamas deliberately caused maximum horror, such as live-streaming atrocities and cutting babies’ throats. Hamas knew Israel would react with angry force. Why would Hamas want to cause this (entirely predictable) Israeli reaction? Iranian involvement?
It’s desperately sad for the innocent civilians on all sides.
Has the baby-cutting been validated? Not that I’m after a video- but reports from the ground that were broadcast suggested this didn’t happen.
I’m finding it incredibly difficult to believe anything that’s broadcast during times of conflict anymore. The propaganda machines get cranked up to max and especially so if you’ve the budget to fluff them.
What is irrefutable is the downsizing of Palestine over several generations and a rather unhealthy view of our brothers from a darker mother by Israel.
I boycotted buying products from Israel years ago so you can take a wild guess where my sympathies land. The whole thing is fucked and the outpouring of public figures sharing unsubstantiated views of occurrences fuels a distorted rhetoric that will only serve to fan the flames of a hatred.
I have watched the news each morning and not once has the war in Ukraine been mentioned, is that now far out of fashion for the scum media to report on now they have the new Hamas fashion to concentrate on?
Docca wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 am
Has the baby-cutting been validated?
Dunno.
To me, the whole "baby killing" view point is messed up anyway. Does anyone here think parents really care about how their baby died, be it at the end of a knife of from a half million dollar 'smart' bomb? Kinda focussing on the wrong problem!
Docca wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 am
Has the baby-cutting been validated?
Sadly, the atrocities by Hamas are real. I know well one of the journalists who is out there and has seen things first-hand.
I am sure some of them are, equally bombing buildings in crowded cities is going ti give more civilian casualties than military ones. Both sides have their "god" on their side, so rational discussion is useless, the only lasting solution is if one side or the other totally eliminates the other, and all it's supporters.
Docca wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 am
Has the baby-cutting been validated?
Sadly, the atrocities by Hamas are real. I know well one of the journalists who is out there and has seen things first-hand.
So, not validated then?
With respect
What I find interesting is that in an age where every single atrocity will have someone filming , even grainy footage- we’re a bit fuzzy on the details. Straight for the ‘baby’s and kittens are killed’ - which is awful and rightly provoked outrage
Also interesting how Israel have sponsored ads on X running pro-Israel propaganda
It’s all a mess. Maybe that’s world war 4 happening, one conflict at a time until we’re all ripping each other to shreds.
Religion though? Nobody should be dying over anything really, but especially that nonsense.
