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Not sure what you are trying to achieve with those links going back over 7 years!

If you like i could probably share twice as many links from just the past year showing police abuse and instances of police corruption but tbh i can't be fucked as you just don't get it.

Just out of curiosity, if you were a teacher in a pupil referral unit and a student called you the N word daily, would you except that is just part of their job? Or if you got told to fuck off numerous times a day by a 13 year old child, is that ok, or is it just the police that you support?

I only ask as i know loads of teachers that get this kind of abuse daily, every single day, little of them moan about it, you don't hear about it on the news and lot's of them have been in the job for decades!

I have been abused in such settings too, i have wanted to kill some of the kids tbh, but i haven't as i am professional and have always just seen it as part of the job, if you are to be putting yourself in front of abusive, abused and disadvantaged people, you need to accept shit like this happens.
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Greenman wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:56 am

Just out of curiosity, if you were a teacher in a pupil referral unit and a student called you the N word daily, would you except that is just part of their job? Or if you got told to fuck off numerous times a day by a 13 year old child, is that ok, or is it just the police that you support?

I only ask as i know loads of teachers that get this kind of abuse daily, every single day, little of them moan about it, you don't hear about it on the news and lot's of them have been in the job for decades!

I have been abused in such settings too, i have wanted to kill some of the kids tbh, but i haven't as i am professional and have always just seen it as part of the job, if you are to be putting yourself in front of abusive, abused and disadvantaged people, you need to accept shit like this happens.
That's a bit of a distorted comparison, as kids in referral have, in my experience of talking with teachers and school employees, SEN and/or mental health issues. Your average goon in the street spitting on coppers is probably just a cunt in most cases.

Is abuse against teaching staff justified? Of course not, and much of the blame, IMO, stems from the parents who have a scant sense of morals and wouldn't know right from wrong if it was tattooed on their eyelids. Cunty apples don't fall far from cunty trees, IMO.

(Does it make the news? Sure as shit does: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65905403 https://www.bbc.com/news/education-56625920 , as indeed it should. Unfortunately, parents seem to be working against the school in terms of discipline, whereas it should be a joined-up effort).

Going into a job with your eyes open to the challenges is one thing, normalising it and accepting it as 'part of the job' isn't. If we allow the cunty kids to do as want, they grow into cunty adults spitting on coppers.


BTW, I'm not here for a barney. You have your views, I have mine. S'all good.
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I thought the reason inner city schools get shed loads more money was to deal with kids like this?
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Mussels wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:48 pm I thought the reason inner city schools get shed loads more money was to deal with kids like this?
All my inner city schools are broke as fuck.

One has just been given a £1000 IT budget for the entire year, of course they can offset other money from things like devolved capital but obvs that then decreases the money they have in that pot to use to buy other things!

The places i find that have the most money are MAT's.

A MAT i have been working at in Minehead has about a £250,000 infrastructure to run 1 sec school and 7 very small (less than 100 kids in each) primaries, and they are all in special measures! Apparently he spent £50k on his Aruba switch cluster alone!
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gremlin wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:23 am Don't you sometimes wish big corps would have the balls to stand up to social media idiots and tell them to feck off instead of throwing out apologies and statements of love for all every five minutes...

"M&S pulls Christmas advert post after Palestinian flag criticism"

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67294809



M&S PR gurus: "We have removed the post following feedback and we apologise for any unintentional hurt caused,"

Gremlin's PR: "Grow up, you bunch of fuck knuckles. If you don't like it, go fucking shop at Poundland, you mouth-breathing morons."

One fewer Christmas ad, I see that as a win, especially so early in the year.
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gremlin wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:41 am BTW, I'm not here for a barney. You have your views, I have mine. S'all good.
Maybe you should be a copper.
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Definitely a job for the thicker skinned, along with fire and ambulance persons. Since the 'abolishment of discipline act' was introduced , what do folk really expect. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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You'd have thought said Ex might have picked up on the fact someone was trying to kill him after the 2nd or 3rd attempt....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-67305278
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:57 am You'd have thought said Ex might have picked up on the fact someone was trying to kill him after the 2nd or 3rd attempt....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-67305278
A lesson there for us all. She applied herself, practised and improved, and successfully killed people.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023 ... -on-israel
This is Nasrallah’s moment’: Will Hezbollah’s chief declare war on Israel?

Hezbollah’s leader will speak Friday on the Israel-Hamas war. What he says could determine whether the conflict spreads.

Lebanon is on edge in advance of Hezbollah leader Syed Hassan Nasrallah’s anticipated Friday speech on Israel’s war on Gaza, which residents and experts fear could inflame regional tensions if he pledges to escalate attacks against Israel.
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I like this judge.

The halfwit on trial constantly tried to claim she was above the law.
The judge kept slamming her down.
The law is the law

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67288289
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Some heart warming news for a change...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-67310766
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irie wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:40 am https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023 ... -on-israel
This is Nasrallah’s moment’: Will Hezbollah’s chief declare war on Israel?

Hezbollah’s leader will speak Friday on the Israel-Hamas war. What he says could determine whether the conflict spreads.

Lebanon is on edge in advance of Hezbollah leader Syed Hassan Nasrallah’s anticipated Friday speech on Israel’s war on Gaza, which residents and experts fear could inflame regional tensions if he pledges to escalate attacks against Israel.
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DT/Reuters wrote: Weak Hezbollah speech shows who is really in charge

Hassan Nasrallah keen to please Iran paymasters as he keeps options open with 'nothing to do with me' speech

Hassan Nasrallah insisted the Oct 7 attacks on Israel were “100 per cent Palestinian”

There have not been many occasions like it, fewer still for the speech of an unelected cleric and militia leader.
Across the Middle East, people stopped to tune in to the pronouncement of Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah at 3pm on Friday.

Would he open a second front in the Israel-Hamas conflict, hurling the region into much wider conflagration, one that could in turn spark a new world war?

In East Jerusalem, the streets fell quiet during the hour-long speech, with only the rhythmic tones of Nasrallah’s voice emanating from thousands of mobile phones and radios.

In the end, as one social media user noted, it was a “nothing burger”.

The Palestinian receptionist at my hotel breathed a deep sigh of relief, along with many others in the region.
That so much could hang on one man’s word is truly terrifying.

Nasrallah kicked off by distancing himself, Hezbollah and - most crucially - his paymaster, Iran, from having anything to do with the Oct 7 massacre.

It was “100 per cent Palestinian,” he said, and it was planned in “great secrecy”.

“This great, large-scale operation was purely the result of Palestinian planning and implementation”.
In short, “It had nothing to do with me, guv,” he seemed to be saying.

He was conscious the Arab street was hanging on his every word; an awkward position for someone who, at one and the same time, wants to be seen as flying the flag of the Palestinian cause, while avoiding the decimation Hamas has brought upon itself in Gaza.

He got around this with the (largely) rhetorical flourish of claiming he and his Hezbollah fighters had been involved in the war since day two.

“Some claim Hezbollah is about to join the fray. I tell you: We have been engaged in this battle since October 8,” he said.

It’s true that skirmishes have been taking place in southern Lebanon between Israel and Hezbollah since Oct 8, but both sides have so far been careful not to escalate things into all-out war.

Indeed, Nasrallah seemed more concerned about preventing a preemptive strike against Hezbollah in Lebanon, something that some in Israel’s military have been openly talking about once the war in Gaza is finished.
“I tell the Israelis, if you are considering carrying out a preemptive attack against Lebanon, it will be the most foolish mistake you make in your entire existence,” he said.

Nasrallah used another clever flourish to excuse himself from further involvement, lest his colleagues in Iran’s so-called “axis of resistance” feel let down.

“He said it was a war Israel can not win, something that signals Hezbollah’s intervention is not needed,” said Sima Shine, an Iran specialist and former Mossad intelligence officer.

Others at Israel’s Institute of National Security Studies, where Ms Shine now works, noted that it also meant Nasrallah was, to some extent, “leaving his options open”.

‘Hezbollah is their nuclear option’

Overall, the speech seemed to confirm conventional intelligence thinking in the region as regards Hezbollah and Iran.

That is to say, Iran does not want to lose its biggest and most powerful asset in the region, lest it be left without geopolitical leverage and a military deterrent against Israel.

“Iran has many proxies in the region but Hezbollah is their nuclear option”, as Ms Shine puts it.
Not everyone will be breathing a sigh of relief, however.

Nasrallah said the attacks against US assets in Syria and elsewhere in the region would continue.
This, said Ms Shine, was an indirect way of applying pressure on Israel for a ceasefire - something that might yet enable Hamas to survive as an Iranian proxy in Gaza.

Israel, however, seemed to anticipate that.

Just moments after Nasrallah wrapped up, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would not agree to a “temporary truce” without the release of all the hostages being held by the group.

He added a warning to Hezbollah, cautioning Israel’s “enemies in the north” not to make the mistake of escalating the war. “You cannot imagine how much this will cost you,” Mr Netanyahu said.
Looking today at Gaza, you would be a fool to think he hasn’t got a point - and Nasrallah’s no fool.
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Needs a précis.
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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:55 pm Needs a précis.
In the end, as one social media user noted, it was a “nothing burger”.
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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:55 pm Needs a précis.
Not my words so can't do that, sorry. :thumbdown:
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:53 am
irie wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:00 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:55 pm Needs a précis.
Not my words so can't do that, sorry. :thumbdown:
Why are you posting it though?
Didn't have you down as one, but as a Telegraph reader you'll be able to read it. Posted in full for the benefit
of none Telegraph readers because presumably is behind the Telegraph paywall.
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Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:47 am
irie wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:38 am
Potter wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:53 am
Why are you posting it though?
Didn't have you down as one, but as a Telegraph reader you'll be able to read it. Posted in full for the benefit
of none Telegraph readers because presumably is behind the Telegraph paywall.
One can also read all about it on mainstream news, the BBC, the Guardian, Al Jazeera, etc.
As can one also read about everything on mainstream news in this thread which, curiously, is entitled "In todays news..."! :lol:
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Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice" - Home Secretary Suella Braverman wants to restrict use of tents by homeless
The home secretary is proposing new laws to restrict the use of tents by homeless people, arguing that many of them see it as a lifestyle choice.

Suella Braverman's plan would introduce new penalties in England and Wales for homeless people whom authorities believe have rejected offers of help.

Britain "cannot allow our streets to be taken over by rows of tents," she said.

Housing charity Shelter responded that "nobody should be punished for being homeless".
Well, that clears one thing up - Braverman is even more disconnected from reality than I first thought.
Blundering about trying not to make too much of a hash of things.
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Lutin wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:12 pm Apparently, Braverman considers rough sleeping a "lifestyle choice" - Home Secretary Suella Braverman wants to restrict use of tents by homeless
The home secretary is proposing new laws to restrict the use of tents by homeless people, arguing that many of them see it as a lifestyle choice.

Suella Braverman's plan would introduce new penalties in England and Wales for homeless people whom authorities believe have rejected offers of help.

Britain "cannot allow our streets to be taken over by rows of tents," she said.

Housing charity Shelter responded that "nobody should be punished for being homeless".
Well, that clears one thing up - Braverman is even more disconnected from reality than I first thought.
She's playing to a particularly obnoxious gallery. If that's what it takes to trawl for votes, god help us all. :(
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