This is not merely a "media narrative", these are political positions. Gender issues are self evidently not the only reason to place a vote, but this issue directly affects over 50% of the UK population..
What is your personal position on this issue?
That it doesn't really affect most voters very much. Not as much as the economy but it helps people to do the - Squirrel! thing instead of keeping the important stuff centre stage. Ah. Rather like you're trying to do.
What is your personal position on this issue?
In your opinion are trans-women Women, and are trans-men Men?
This seems very important to you and it's nice that you care what I think, but tbh, I don't think you do, you just want to talk about it because it avoids talking about a few other things. Keep the fluff at the top of the political agenda.
I'm sure you'll ask me again what my personal position is. It helps boing the topic and that's how you roll. Shrug.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
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What an unbelievably stupid woman. I wonder what she thinks should be done with 'Isla Bryson' (not his real name).
Lib Dem is not an alternative because Ed Davey is on record as agreeing 100% with Keir Starmer that 99.99% of women do not have penises (therefore 1 in 10,000 women DO have penises).
Neither is Green an alternative because the Green Party's website says:
Trans rights
The Green Party recognises that trans men are men, trans women are women
You can probably convince me that the Labour, Lib Dem, and Green Parties are not fit to govern. My problem is that the Tory Party have proved, beyond any shadow of doubt, that they aren't either. Where do we go from here?
That it doesn't really affect most voters very much. Not as much as the economy but it helps people to do the - Squirrel! thing instead of keeping the important stuff centre stage. Ah. Rather like you're trying to do.
What is your personal position on this issue?
In your opinion are trans-women Women, and are trans-men Men?
This seems very important to you and it's nice that you care what I think, but tbh, I don't think you do, you just want to talk about it because it avoids talking about a few other things. Keep the fluff at the top of the political agenda.
I'm sure you'll ask me again what my personal position is. It helps boing the topic and that's how you roll. Shrug.
Ok, feel free to tell us what does impress you about the Parliamentary Labour Party.
I’m a bit baffled these days. I mean they used to be socialist; the party used to feature prominent Jews and now they hate Jews.
In your opinion are trans-women Women, and are trans-men Men?
This seems very important to you and it's nice that you care what I think, but tbh, I don't think you do, you just want to talk about it because it avoids talking about a few other things. Keep the fluff at the top of the political agenda.
I'm sure you'll ask me again what my personal position is. It helps boing the topic and that's how you roll. Shrug.
Ok, feel free to tell us what does impress you about the Parliamentary Labour Party.
I’m a bit baffled these days. I mean they used to be socialist; the party used to feature prominent Jews and now they hate Jews.
I suggest you step away from the Buckie bottle and have a wee lie down, your conflationary gland appears to have gone into tachycardia.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
This seems very important to you and it's nice that you care what I think, but tbh, I don't think you do, you just want to talk about it because it avoids talking about a few other things. Keep the fluff at the top of the political agenda.
I'm sure you'll ask me again what my personal position is. It helps boing the topic and that's how you roll. Shrug.
Ok, feel free to tell us what does impress you about the Parliamentary Labour Party.
I’m a bit baffled these days. I mean they used to be socialist; the party used to feature prominent Jews and now they hate Jews.
I suggest you step away from the Buckie bottle and have a wee lie down, your conflationary gland appears to have gone into tachycardia.
Use your vote as your conscience guides you, but that’s not a very good answer.
Count Steer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:36 pm
That it doesn't really affect most voters very much. Not as much as the economy but it helps people to do the - Squirrel! thing instead of keeping the important stuff centre stage. Ah. Rather like you're trying to do.
What is your personal position on this issue?
In your opinion are trans-women Women, and are trans-men Men?
This seems very important to you and it's nice that you care what I think, but tbh, I don't think you do, you just want to talk about it because it avoids talking about a few other things. Keep the fluff at the top of the political agenda.
I'm sure you'll ask me again what my personal position is. It helps boing the topic and that's how you roll. Shrug.
So the sex based rights of over 50% of the population are mere "fluff"?
You couldn't make it up.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
irie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:10 pm
Lib Dem is not an alternative because Ed Davey is on record as agreeing 100% with Keir Starmer that 99.99% of women do not have penises (therefore 1 in 10,000 women DO have penises).
99.99% accurate is about as close as any politician gets to telling the truth. He should be commended.
The gender shit may be looming too large in this here discussion because it is an area where it is believable that Labour will do something different from the Conservatives.
Sir Keir gonna kick start the house building amongst other wonderful things. Around here I doubt they could build any quicker if they tried. Taking the piss I say.
It's bizarre, if he/his advisers think that taking planning decisions away from local authorities etc (well, more than the current appeal process) and giving developers carte blanche, they've been at the Kool Aid.
They seem to be building as fast as they can get labour and materials anyway. (Not that there's much going for less than £950k. I've got a photo of a place that's under construction on a development not too far away. It looks like they've taken design inspiration from a public toilet. Looked up the asking price for that type...just under £1M. No front garden, small back garden and it's about 1.5m from being a semi-detatched.
I'll dig out the pic.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
The darker patches between floors are where they punched holes in the walls to lift the cavity wall insulation up again. I think they subsequently removed and rebuilt the front elevation completely. Other houses appear to be completely clad in black recycled plastic tiles of some sort.
I suppose the neighbours are happier with them than if they'd put 'affordable' housing up.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
Potter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:35 pm
Those sorts of new build exec housing estates sell like hot cakes, and to be fair it's what we chose when our kids were young.
We wanted a nice estate where the kids could all socialise, the houses were all reasonably expensive so it kept riff-raff out, energy efficient, no maintenance because they're new and close to town for work.
We're old now and want the opposite, well away from any estates, old house with character and rural landscape.
Yup. Everything that's been completed is occupied. It's on the edge of the new country park so they know 'Phase 2' won't suddenly appear and the location generally isn't bad at all. The new places on the other side of the park are much nicer designs though and much less densely packed. (They're all on the flood plain though, but the others were all tanked and have shuttable vents etc). Wouldn't even mind one of the others myself.
If anyone thinks house building isn't happening they need to visit Horsham, they've pretty much added a New Town onto it. I suppose things aren't the same everywhere though. If there are jobs/££ things will sell.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
Potter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:35 pm
Those sorts of new build exec housing estates sell like hot cakes, and to be fair it's what we chose when our kids were young.
We wanted a nice estate where the kids could all socialise, the houses were all reasonably expensive so it kept riff-raff out, energy efficient, no maintenance because they're new and close to town for work.
We're old now and want the opposite, well away from any estates, old house with character and rural landscape.
Yup. Everything that's been completed is occupied. It's on the edge of the new country park so they know 'Phase 2' won't suddenly appear and the location generally isn't bad at all. The new places on the other side of the park are much nicer designs though and much less densely packed. (They're all on the flood plain though, but the others were all tanked and have shuttable vents etc). Wouldn't even mind one of the others myself.
If anyone thinks house building isn't happening they need to visit Horsham, they've pretty much added a New Town onto it. I suppose things aren't the same everywhere though. If there are jobs/££ things will sell.
The Broadbridge Heath estate at Horsham (Wickhurst Green I thin they coined it as), was about 2,000 houses. The new estates north of Horsham are going to be 4,000+ houses. They're promising a new train station to serve the area (the estates will basically join Horsham to Crawley), but they keep changing where they're planning to put it!
Potter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:35 pm
Those sorts of new build exec housing estates sell like hot cakes, and to be fair it's what we chose when our kids were young.
We wanted a nice estate where the kids could all socialise, the houses were all reasonably expensive so it kept riff-raff out, energy efficient, no maintenance because they're new and close to town for work.
We're old now and want the opposite, well away from any estates, old house with character and rural landscape.
Yup. Everything that's been completed is occupied. It's on the edge of the new country park so they know 'Phase 2' won't suddenly appear and the location generally isn't bad at all. The new places on the other side of the park are much nicer designs though and much less densely packed. (They're all on the flood plain though, but the others were all tanked and have shuttable vents etc). Wouldn't even mind one of the others myself.
If anyone thinks house building isn't happening they need to visit Horsham, they've pretty much added a New Town onto it. I suppose things aren't the same everywhere though. If there are jobs/££ things will sell.
The Broadbridge Heath estate at Horsham (Wickhurst Green I thin they coined it as), was about 2,000 houses. The new estates north of Horsham are going to be 4,000+ houses. They're promising a new train station to serve the area (the estates will basically join Horsham to Crawley), but they keep changing where they're planning to put it!
Yup. Broadbridge Heath was quite a small place, although the business park across the road was there it was nicely kept apart by the Horsham/Guildford Road. (I have to visit Halfords and the DiY place every now and again + the car dealership on the roundabout). Now they seem to have built or be starting to build on every acre of land around it all...with a major dual carriageway running through the middle. It's like 'New Horsham'.
Good idea with the new station though, the old one's now in the wrong place and the parking is pants!
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
